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the jurogan experience we were getting like major athletes like major athletes and i remember i interviewed um uh wyatt chris weidman and he was fighting um uh he wasn't fighting the other guy uh the anderson silva no machida i can't remember luke rockhold it might have been when he was fighting luke rockwell i can't remember um what year this was about 2015. was he the champ he was the champ so the odds are it's either vitor leoto machida vidor it was vidor he was fighting vador oh and it was the first time i'd like sat down with like you know guys who were trained fighters and the calm it's just like a calm and a piece that like i was trying to put my finger in like what is that calm and then i realized like if like i'm in i get insecure you know but you know i'm like got nervousness and a lot of that is because i always in a situation know there's pro a probability that i could get [ __ ] up but if i walked around and i knew that 99.7 of the people i could [ __ ] up i'd be calm well chris weidman is calm like i would be calm if i was hanging out with 10 year old girls and they were trying to tell me how the world works and i'd be like that's cute let me tell you how the world really works yeah it's like that yeah especially when he was the champ yeah i mean when he was the champ first of all when chris weidman was coming up and the limitations of chris weidman legitimately are the limitations of the human body because his body started to break he started to he had knee problems and neck problems and back problems but the limitations of his mind were limitless it was there's a lot of these guys like and a lot of them are wrestlers because i think wrestlers have the strongest brains because the strongest minds the strongest determination because that sport is so [ __ ] brutal but these great wrestlers who get into

fighting like chris weidman and cain velasquez was another one the limitations of came alaska's were the limitations of his body because he started getting shoulder surgery and back surgery and knee surgery and then it all started falling apart but when he was at his peak chris weidman was a [ __ ] man strong not just but the mind too it's not it's not just the body his body was surely strong but his mind was just unbreakable he would break guys you know and and kane was the same way kane was a guy who broke guys he break them because i i really firmly believe this this day that wrestlers because there's no go like i had jordan burrows on the other day he's a wrestler right olympic gold medalist four-time world champion stud of a human being and when you talk to him you realize like he's just so exceptional in every way and one of the reasons why he's so exceptional is because wrestling has no glory like the people that get into wrestling they do it because it's the pursuit it's not it's not like a bentley and a mansion and watches and rings and all that [ __ ] like the the the glory is in victory it's in the pursuit and also in victory in the most difficult of circumstances which is like amateur high level world-class wrestling like those it's so [ __ ] hard so the guys like chris weidman the guys like jordan burrows the guys like king velazquez guys who excel in wrestling there's a mindset that they have that's uh it's so interesting to be around them because they're they're because they are that calm they have that that there's a there's a level that they've reached that very few human beings outside of wrestlers ever reached that's fascinating do you think that's changing now because they do have an outlet with mma which is great like they can go pro and become rich and kind of famous some of them but

you know like jordan burroughs doesn't have any interest in in fighting i mean especially his wife doesn't want him to fight because he he does make good money wrestling just has an ambassador to wrestling but i don't think i don't think they go fall into the same pitfalls that a lot of the other uh fighters fall into you know like a lot of them they just uh they get into fame and glory and all that [ __ ] and wideman never really got into that he was just into smashing people yeah smashing yeah just just smashing people like khabib i'm gonna smash your boy he's the perfect example khabib's the perfect example the guy drives a toyota yeah okay he's worth [ __ ] millions of dollars he's the most dominant fighter in any weight class in the history of the sport and he is as calm and as humble as can be while also being incredibly confident yeah yeah and super religious yeah doesn't drink doesn't smoke doesn't party doesn't do anything it's just dedicated to smashing people i'm gonna smash your boy right i'm gonna smash your boy when he said that i'm gonna smash your somebody said to me that's like samuel jackson in pulp fiction you're like oh [ __ ] it's greater because it's not fake right and he did it yeah and he did smash him and he you know what the the best the scariest thing that he ever said he goes i want to change his face yeah yeah i want to change his face how much is the mental bat did like conor when he fought conor it was like opposites going against each other like that ultra humility versus that like you know absolute boastful like do you think connor knew before just no like do you think he went he's gonna win and look he he won a round with khabib he won the third round and that's probably the only round that could be lost in his entire career like there's an argument that maybe you lost one or two rounds earlier that are real close but i mean he's he's 29-0 you have to understand how insane that is and then you have to understand the weight class

he's in he's in the 155 pound weight class which is arguably the most competitive in the history of the sport right there's like the arguments are like 45-55 and maybe 70 or the most competitive uh weight classes ever and he's the the most dominant guy ever in the most competitive weight class yeah i mean he's a monster he's a beast man you're in that weight class and you know you got to fight him you're like yeah do you think you question everything about yourself yeah do you think wrestlers on to that level are have an advantage in mma like because you just eventually going to get your hands on a guy yeah well that's what he has an advantage i mean he when he wrestles guys when he grabs them you could see the look in their face like oh my god this is different it's like an anaconda got you just different well look at his last guy that he fought is justin gaichi who's a [ __ ] killer right smashes tony ferguson smashes edson barboza i mean he's a [ __ ] beast and a really good wrestler too but when khabib got a hold of him every time just drags him to the ground and almost submitted him at the end of the first round and then submitted him in the second round he said he wanted it submit he didn't want to hurt him do you think that was true yeah he said like i didn't want to do it that way because his parents were there well that's some [ __ ] ill [ __ ] to say like i'll just wait till next round do it a little softer well they were friends justin actually they have the same manager and justin actually helped him cut weight earlier in his career because cutting weight is uh i don't know have you ever spent some time in the sauna i have i went i did some shows in sweden yeah yeah there's a there's a moment in the sauna that comes around like minute 13 fourteen especially if it's like a hot minute three for me when you start looking around you're like you look at

your wash and you're like [ __ ] like how do i do this i wanna get out now and you don't you don't get out you stay in and so it's like you need support and like a lot of times the guys will have guys cut weight with them and they'll come and sit with you and give you support because like as much as khabib is like his mind is a a [ __ ] a vault a bank vault i mean his mind is impenetrable even a man like him we will use encouragement from other people and use support and love and friendship from other people and justin helped him cut weight wow and i think they were he was they had a bond because of that so when he fought conor he wanted to change his face he wanted to smash smash your boy with gaijin he's just like i'm gonna beat him and i'm gonna beat him the way i would beat a friend it's like you're beating up your brother yeah like you go like you know i'm gonna hurt you but not you're my brother so it's gonna like i'm gonna do it so you can he he went to submissions faster than he has in any other fight he's ever had god he's not good he's not good he almost caught he fought with a broken toe too by the way wow snapped like he took a they showed an x-ray of his toe after the fight he broke his toe in training right and a lot of guys would have pulled out of that fight if you look at the fight i watched it yesterday actually while i was working out he had his toes taped together right that's it that's the brace right that's the cast right a little piece of tape connecting his toes when you break your toe that's all you can do right is really just tape it up he's an extraordinary human being and uh it's his mind i mean his body obviously is uh ridiculous too but his body is ridiculous because of his mind yeah you know and he just comes from a place that like you know what did joe dimaggio say like uh and so rich rich guys can't make the

big leagues he comes from a place that probably like getting in the octagon is like the easiest thing he's done in his entire life i mean those videos of him as a kid wrestling i mean it's like you got you got to get in the ring with him you're going like how can i grapple better than a bear catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background by using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience