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the jurogan experience they show them the new missile they've developed and uh but it has kind of a round round head and he says uh you need to make it more pointy to his engineers and uh actually that's why i also decided the same thing um you know starship we need to make it more pointy did you say that mm-hmm because of the movie yeah really yeah hold on that's you literally told them to make the starship more pointy because of the movie the dictator yep um and they know it too it's not like they it's not like they haven't they're unaware of it everyone thought it would be funny if we made the rocket more pointy so we did did it have any effect on the aerodynamics no nothing no we can make it way blunter and be fine but it was is it better to be pointier like if it wasn't for that arguably but more fun for you it looks cooler well okay it does look cool yeah yeah how long do you think it'll be before are you good jimmy my head's maybe yeah exactly good how long my head is sticking out is that where it's right on the edge of the top it's all good oh is that supposed to be okay you're good all right how long do you think it's going to be before you have like regular flights with that where you can take off and land and like an airplane where it'll be very consistent with our extra pointy rocket you were your extra pointy rocket do you mean earth to earth transport or or to earth to orbit or anywhere yes people are people any time where you could just do it with people and have them have it land all the time um i think you're probably two hours away two years away yeah that's that's that's really nice two years is pretty cool it's yours for people we'll we'll we'll have a lot of flights between down there that's crazy that's 20 23 is not that far away that'll be there before you know it
yeah wow 2023 10 flies how many times have you had explosions when you're on a rocket um i don't know like uh quite a few six maybe five or six what are those like what is it like when you watch it explode when it's supposed to land and it just now this is a test program we expect it to explode um it's weird if it doesn't explode frankly really yeah um because we're trying to develop advanced rockets at a high at a high speed and uh if you want to get payloads orbit uh you you have to run things close to the edge and um the whole rocket is evolving the engines the structure the avionics the software the ground systems are all evolving simultaneously so and the whole production system which is actually harder than the rocket design by far so the the rocket and engine and avionics production system is and the launch system uh is a thousand percent harder than the initial design like at least really yeah so when same with cars it's like ten thousand percent and it's easy to do a car prototype it's hard to do production um so when you're looking at you're scaling towards the future and you're looking at mistakes or uh corrections improvements and all these different things that's how you come up with this figure of approximately two years if current trends continue uh if we excited you know if you plot the points on the curve of progress then then we should be doing regular uh orbital flights with a high probability of uh safe landing in two years so we're getting to orbit this year our goal is to get over this year so and and i'm not sure people totally understand like starship is the largest playing object ever made uh this thing will be about over 5000 tons uh weight on liftoff
is going to go straight up 5.5 000 turns um this is much heavier than any aircraft by far there's no no aircraft even comes close to this uh with weight um and it's going straight up the aircraft can't go straight up so it's like the it's got more than twice it will have more than twice the thrust of a saturn v really yeah yeah it's like a big rocket why does it need that much thrust oh we're trying because you want to go to mars or is this like we're trying to make life multi-planetary you know uh extend life beyond earth and in order to do that you have to have high tonnage to mars and that means you need a big rocket and you gotta fly a lot so the reason why it has twice the thrust of the saturn five is to plan for these interstellar trips uh interpreting interplanetary trips so when you when you're doing this and you're you're you're developing these systems thinking about regular trips to other planets but you're not you're not just trying to get into orbit right now you're trying to get into orbit with something that eventually could scale up yeah we know how to get to orbit we've done that a lot so the the really hard thing is we need to have a fully and rapidly reusable rocket where the where all elements of the rocket are reused and they're reused quickly like an aircraft um and this has never been done this is the holy grail of rocketry this is uh to have a fully uh reusable rocket then you need to go one step further it needs to be fully and rapidly reusable you know it's like like a plane yeah yeah like plane lands you uh you know refuel it and take off again how do you have time this i i never understand you in regards to the the way you run multiple businesses simultaneously i would think that something like this would require so much concentration
it would require this i would think this would be your whole being trying to figure out how to work this um yeah well i do work a lot but it's crazy and i thought just for a reason as late as i looked like coming from from me uh you know some critical meetings just doing normally i'd be meeting until i work until like one or two in the morning every night not i mean saturday sunday usually not but sometimes how much do you sleep about six hours oh that's pretty good yeah not that crazy for you that's i mean for someone does as much as you that's actually that's impressive that you can squeeze that in yeah i try i've tried sleeping less but then total uh productivity decreases yeah so you feel like six is the number where it's yeah six six uh six or six is i can that um i i don't find myself needed wanting more sleep than sex so when like with the saturn v and the space shuttles and all these other rockets you they would they would have these parts that would they would get the ship up into space but they would descend down to earth and crash into the ocean and they would never use them again that's right how do you avoid that like what is the difference between the way this these things are structured like the the whole thing goes together and then it lands together um well we're on the wrong planet for a single stage to orbit right um i think one thing to appreciate is like space getting to space is easy getting to orbit as hard so you only need maybe one or two percent of the energy to get to space to where the atmosphere is thin compared to what you need to get to orbit and if you get to orbit now you've got to burn off all that energy and you're coming in like a meteor so you need a powerful heat shield so it's like super difficult to get to orbit at all
and then if you get to orbit at all then making those the stages reusable means they're going to come back intact uh and then the upper stage is especially difficult because it's got so much energy all the energy you put into it you have to take out um so it's a you know you're literally coming in like a flaming meteor and and most things would just melt and vapor melt or vaporize so like if you as human try to come in from orbit you just be pink mist yeah a funny way to put it yeah catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience