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the jurogan experience i mean i think that is kind of a root of anxieties like modern life like things trigger fight or flight that shouldn't necessarily you know it's like stress at work and your boss or whatever and it like triggers that same thing yes but um yeah it is true that that in my life at least the things that trigger fight or flight are like legitimate life or death sorts of situations where it's like oh you you know you are about to fall off a cliff or like oh you know like the storm is coming and you're out in the middle of nowhere and you're like i'm about to get worked you know it's like right like typically when i feel that kind of major anxiety it's like for a real reason and um i mean it is interesting yeah i mean it is it is appropriate that way it's like it's like it's like the correct outlet for that kind of stress it really does completely make sense as to and also most of the guys that i've met that do what you do and i don't know if they've met anybody that does exactly what you do but guys that climb a lot they're pretty chill yeah it's a pretty well dude i think part of that is because you get worked by nature so often that then when you're in sort of normal life everything feels pretty relaxed because you're kind of like oh i'm physically comfortable i'm fed i'm hydrated i'm like you know my body is fine i'm not about to just get hammered by by nature you know yeah like yeah that's my philosophy about really difficult exercise it's really important because it makes other things seem easy and the stresses of regular i think we have just like a standard base level of stress and when you artificially impose a higher base level electively like whether it's through climbing or other kind of exercise totally whatever you're doing it makes the rest of life seem easier seem easy yeah dude i had a earlier this year there was a winter storm warning for vegas it does snow in vegas sometimes in the mountains especially like get get snow there's a winter storm warning

for this like storm coming through and i'd climbed like 20 days in a row basically or something and i wanted to use the storm day to try to hike this one section of the traverse that i'm trying to do of all these peaks i figured i would like take advantage of a non-climbing day to do the one walking section to like figure out where the route goes and so i went out in this crazy storm and when i started it was like snowing a little and i was like in crazy wind it's really cold and i was trying out these new like waterproof layers just to see how actually i wanted to try them out before the jungle to see if they'd be good jungle layers and um and so i go up into the mountain anyway long story short i get completely worked it turns out visibility is nothing i didn't know where i was going i get lost in the mountains it and it wound up being basically too difficult of terrain to travel through uh in the snow like uh because i'd sort of taken it for granted but in red rock on those mountains you you walk on these like exposed sandstone slabs all the time but when you cover them in like six inches of snow it's like really kind of horrifying you can't just like walk up the slabs anymore it's like now a total tobogganing death trap where you're gonna like slide down you know so i was like anyway so i go up quite a ways eventually i just had to give up and like turn around but i'm now you know 2500 feet like up this mountainside and then i turned around and then it all was way more socked in i couldn't even see my tracks anymore because everything's like filled in and visibility is nothing and so i had like a garmin watch on so i kept like looking a little track of my watch being like am i to the left or the right of the track that i came up you know like no idea where i am full mountain's on keep falling down and you know there's like you're falling yeah but like sliding over things or tripping on rocks it's really steep hillside with like and you're stepping through you know say

six or eight inches of fresh powder but underneath it's still like loose rocks and cactuses and things like that so it's like you know the terrain is it's not like a snow base or something right like you're just stepping through it and falling over anyway so i fell into cactuses a bunch of times and so the thing is i was totally hypothermic completely wet totally worked and my hand had all these cactus thorns in it and my other hand was too numb to like manipulate anything so i went up like biting the biggest thorns out and then just left the rest of them because it's just i just i just couldn't use my hands and just keep staggering down the mountain anyway eventually i like made it back to the car made it back to the house and i had my wife pull all the thorns out because i like i couldn't really use my hands i was so worked but i was kind of like but that was like my rest day adventure you know what i mean that's like i mean it turned out being it turned out being way more apparently yeah yeah i mean i was hoping that it was going to go better in that and it didn't really work out but that is kind of the point that when you take on that elective love you know i was like i had a goal that i wanted to piece together this section of a hike didn't work out that way i wound up you know building a bunch of character instead but you know you're just like that's just a normal day out you know it's like when you're adventuring in the mountains sometimes sometimes those winter storm advisories actually happen you know it's just easy living in the desert you're like it'll be fine it'll be fine and then you're like no it was not fine it was totally crunk that's pretty crazy and that that does speak to what we're saying like if you're doing that kind of yeah and that's just like a normal day you know like that's not even like the crazy like oh i thought i was gonna die i was just like i was just deeply uncomfortable and like sort of on

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