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the jurogan experience there's no part of the mainstream that looks at all credible to me anymore well it's real wacky now right and here's a here's a wacky one where the new york times um is they they're debunking this idea that the wuhan lab may have been the source of kovid when they're like when all these different people are talking about it we've been on this for forever we have been on it forever what it's extraordinary is the the new york times is still saying debunked claims with no evidence whatsoever you know sauger and jetty from the rising in the hill had this whole piece about it on his uh i love what they're doing they're the best they're the best well he's got two channels have you been on either well i've i've only had him on here and crystal together but what i like that was what you guys did right at the beginning of that where they explained what happened i didn't mean to cut you off what happens in the cycle when your team wins and your team loses and how they've both broken out of that and they've thrown that away yes that they there that was ten minutes yeah that i needed to hear that you i thought you broke new you the three of you guys broke really new ground they're what we need there's a reasonable person on the left and a reasonable person on the right and they're both committed to honesty above all right they might have different philosophy together i think crystal is coming towards sagar because she's seeing yes the rot on the left yes what my hope is is that she's going to be um a credible progressive who's rejecting all this nonsense progressivism yeah i think i think you're right she's very smart and so is he and the two of them together are wonderful what were you going to say before i catch up what i was going to say is they were talking about how the new york times is is talking about this deep i forget who they were quoting who who was uh entertaining this idea was that what that's right the cdc guy
that he was uh entertaining this idea this uh this debunked idea of this emanating from a lab but it's not debunked not only is it not debunked it's more possible than ever but the problem is the idea was originally associated with donald trump so these [ __ ] at the new york times still have it in their head that they can't admit i don't know that that's what's going on what do you think it is well that what they do it's a weird move we should tell people exactly what what they're saying okay the the the former head of the cdc is saying that it's more probable than not he's not saying it's absolute he's saying it's more probable than not that it escaped from a lab right and he details it and he actually predates it he goes pre uh you know he goes like deep into september and october he believes it might have emanated around that time started spreading they the reason why is and it all makes total sense this is an a very unusual laboratory the laboratory had been cited in 2018 for safety protocol violations the laboratory works on the exact same kinds of coronaviruses that cause this worldwide pandemic on bats they work on bat yep chronoviruses and this is one of two level four labs that are in this area so this this whole thing is so it's so much more likely that it emanated from the lab but the problem is the the narrative was donald trump is racist donald trump calls it the china virus donald trump says it came from a lab it can't have come from a lab because donald trump's always wrong that's one possibility i'm worried about something beyond that what are you worried about the way that they make this move is that they synonymize the lab leak hypothesis with a synthetic virus engineered from scratch so in other
words the idea of like maybe somebody growing uh horseshoe bat coronavirus in human lung tissue to accelerate natural selection because like we don't know how to engineer it but if you let if you let natural selection engineer it you can accelerate that right so instead of saying um we don't know what to make of accelerated natural selection in a lab leaking they try to make this move which is like you know there's no sign that this was engineered in a lab you're like okay well you changed what the hypothesis is in order to say what you're saying to protect your future credibility and the thing that i'm really freaking out about you've been talking about it brett's been talking about i've been talking about all sorts of people have been talking about this one for a year i increasingly think that none of these organizations think that they owe us any kind of truth that when they get caught it's just like yeah of course we had to say that like what yeah you know like this time magazine article about of course we fortified the election you you what oh yeah we fortified it oh i did yeah trump was right about a conspiracy like he was quoting that who are they quoting that said they they fortified the election there was apparently some entire group under one guy with hundreds of activists who told their people don't riot in the streets have a dance party instead i would highly recommend time magazine i read the i read the the blurb about the fortifying and i was like hmm yeah that's a disturbing quote but what does it mean what do what are they trying to mean with their the claim of the article is we went right up to the door meddling with the election but all we cared about was free and fair and we had a huge conspiracy so donald trump wasn't wrong there was a huge conspiracy but we are
so committed to democracy that even though we hate donald trump with a passion that you know won't let go 24 7 we still would never do anything against an election the problem is with a god like trump you can almost justify some that's what i said [ __ ] if you claim that you're you have to fight all enemies foreign and domestic and you claim that he's a russian asset you're pretty much saying that you have to do something drastic yeah and so the number of things that people claim is what the problem is because they're not all compatible and and what i'm trying to get it more broadly is over and over i see the same move which is deny deny deny we get caught yeah limited hangout yeah we did that [ __ ] that's the kind of stuff we do because we have to do it but i don't think they're saying they got caught i think they're saying that what we did was make sure the election was fair it was i think the concept of a limited hangout where you know that something is too big to hold back so you push a part of it into the public not all of it that's the limited and you let the public think okay well now you know the truth and it stops there and then they stop asking questions because they've got a new toy to play with catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background by using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience