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The Joe Rogan Experience well do you want me to tell you about the IAS experience yeah sure do you remember how much do you remember well you know I I remember uh how I found out about it which is weird because it was a friend of mine's wife but I'd heard that iasa word before and I so I knew a very very little bit about it so then I started kind of researching it what is it where does it come from it's a strong hallucinogen you know which I've always had a tendency to like anyway so thought it sounded like it was right up my alley but for a long time you had to get on a canoe you know and go down and find a corrugated 10 Shack and sleep on a dead floor and and uh and so it wasn't very appealing to a lot of people so the guy that opened the place uh he had money and he said he bought part of a like a JW Marriott Beach Resort well he bought their overflow area which was not on the beach but in the jungle with a big fence howler monkey is the most useless animal in the world they scream at the top of their lungs other monkeys must just hate them you know can you tone it down a little bit how how how so I thought well I'm Sig up for that and I'll use that to get off liquor because a lot of people do come away from there with a different perspective right which I did and uh but then they I was honest with them about how much I drank and they go oh no you can't come here uh you we don't want you coming here and getting into DTS that's not we're not a detox facility and we're not set up for it so you have to have 14 days of sobriety before you come here and I'm like [ __ ] right I don't know if I could do that or not cuz I was drinking so much and uh and then I knew about this guy there was a hypnotist in uh Marina Del Rey I think is kind of where is or uh that's not it it's uh whatever one of the coastal towns down there and my assistant Anthony had a uh worked for a guy that had a lot of problems and went to this guy and quit all of them and uh so I'm like well I could go over there and see how that works so I went over there and uh his office was in his garage he was the least impressive human being I've ever met and they had a brown wig that was on
crooked and I don't know if that was part of it that you get focused on dude what's up with your wig and and that maybe got you off beat a little bit and uh and then he had a tall glass of water with no ice in it and he took these little tiny sips out of it now I don't know if that was part of the setup or not but the garage thing was like a Valour recliner that had have been 30 years old and it wasn't well-kept or anything and so I sat in there and uh and then we he just talked about you know kind of what was going on with my body and all this liquor that I was pouring into it and kind of like how your heart and your lungs and your kidney like to work together to keep you living and I've had an allout assault on all three of them for 50 years and and you know whatever and uh and so he got through with the first session and he would put me under and I would go under that's for sure and cuz he would have to snap me out of it and I was just sitting there conscious of everything he was saying but in a whatever hypnotic state for sure so he was good at that and uh and obviously it was kind of weird because he said imagine you're on the 22nd floor of a building and you're getting on the elevator and it's kind of weird cuz I live on the 22nd floor of a building he didn't know that but odd and uh so I finished the first session he says okay don't don't quit drinking I'm like great great I'm I'm I like this program so I came back and I thought maybe I it was four sessions over a period of a month and um and so uh but after the second one I quit drinking and uh and I was just waiting for the shoe to fall you know I was waiting to start getting sick off not drinking and uh and it and it didn't happen and it really didn't bother me not to drink and it was set up for as soon as I was finished with that i' would go straight to to South uh or uh whatever uh what happened to that pill I took uh Costa Rica and uh and I checked into this place and it was really really nice you can go you can where you can share a room with somebody which they recommend that experience with somebody you don't know uh but I didn't want to do that so you can also get your own room and it's not overly expensive compared to rehab in Malibu you know which I repriced at 100 Grand uh for 30 days what 100 Grand
uh three grand a night and they recommended a minimum of 30 days and uh and that that was on the street I lived on in Beverly Hills up at the top of it and uh so this is like you could do this for like if you shareed a room with somebody for like like 1,800 bucks for a week and mine was like five grand but I had a nice room and it was you know really nice place they cooked all your food and it was healthy but it was really good you know it was uh no soda pops no alcohol no you know uh a lot of [ __ ] I wouldn't advertise if I was trying to get people to go down there and uh but you know pineapple juice and coconut water [ __ ] great and um so the you you get down there and you got a group of about 50 people I think was in our group that were and uh they everybody has their own room but then there this one space where everybody gets together for this experience of viasa so there's 50 mattresses on the floor that have you know really nice sheets and pillows and blankets and they're on the floor and and it's very ceremonial and that you know there's a guy a shaman that looks like a shaman feathers and [ __ ] and uh you stand in line with your little cup and he gives you a cup of this mud awful Tas and stuff and I did mind and it I just talk to him like he's a regular person and uh I said so what do you do and he says well well outside there was a bunch of hammocks it was beautiful space really couldn't have been any better and hammocks all around he go out there and sit in the hammock and whenever you need to when it's time you just come back in I said how do I know when it's time he goes oh you'll know I was okay all right so I took my IAS and went out there and I'm like oh it's kind of like mushrooms a little bit I felt myself coming onto it and then uh and then I opened my mouth and the entire Forest poured into it I'm like that's probably the signal right there that it's time to go in I think I get it so I went in and I laid down on my my bunk now some people throw up on it so you have a puke bucket too but some people get the shits I got the shits vomiting is way better uh because you can vomit from your bed but if you got the [ __ ] you got to get up and find someplace there's bathrooms a lot of them so but I never
thought I'd see it people throwing up in a bucket and go lucky I wish I was gr up but I got the shits and so I laid down and I tripped so hard and it was really dark and they said lean towards the dark side so if there's a a rainbow and a unicorn and then there's a guy you don't understand in your yard go that go towards the dark guy in the yard don't hop on the unicorn and jump over the rainbow go the other way and and don't fight it just let it happen but I think I just struggled with it the first night and uh and and I I was getting really distorted images of people's faces when they got close to me and and I was tripping so hard that I was like my head was itching and I just couldn't figure it out you know how to make my head stop itching and uh I thought about scratching it but I wasn't exactly sure how to use my hands anymore and somebody walked by and I asked them to scratch my head and they're like yeah sure like this yeah oh that's it that's it that's good and I really thought towards the end of that that I wouldn't do it again because I just didn't see the benefit of of of it you know it scared me it didn't scare me but it wasn't pleasant at all you know like it wasn't like mushrooms and it wasn't like acid uh to me it wasn't and uh and you could almost see somebody's skull when they were too close to you and it was I was just wanting it to be over and uh and the beautiful thing about ion Wasa is it is over I mean it only goes for like two hours and when it when it's done it's done and so they time it so you can do more you can do all you want but but not past a certain point and then it's at one point they turn on the lights and go good morning and it's over you're know you can't just go home go back to your room and go to sleep real fast but it's over all those things are gone they it gets out of your system completely so fast and then there's you know there's music there's you know live band or you know people in Congos and guitars and [ __ ] so it it's funky and some people even while I was in my wildest point of this trip they were up just dancing around the room I'm like Jesus Christ how are you doing this I don't understand and uh so I thought and I think that's about enough right and then uh next by the next day once I got out
of it and then people kind of sit around and share their experiences and whatever and I was into the whole thing and I was really trying to surrender myself to the experience you know I was trying to do what they were asking me to do and uh and get the whole ride you know and uh so the next night I went in and he gave me it was a different Shaman every night and uh the he gave me about a half a cup and uh I said uh the other person gave me a whole cup of the and he said uh yeah the mother iasa uh said to give you the night off and and tone it down for you and he I don't know if he talked to the other guy and I don't know why he said that but so I took that dose and I went outside and I sat for and and I noticed it had been a a while and it and it started coming on to me and uh and and I just felt this overpour of love I mean it was just amazing uh for everything I felt it just filling my body with just love and and happiness and so that night I was really just digging on the music got up and danced uh everybody wears white and I thought I didn't know why it first but that's so they can't see you they can see you sneaking off to your room to get some smokes cuz they they busted me doing that the first night I was like trying to creep away I like I didn't know you could smoke out here but uh so the uh that was great and uh afterwards uh I really felt a just deep connection to the whole place you know it felt like this was you know a journey that was you know designed for me you know because I just felt wonderful about myself about decisions I was making uh about the direction I was headed in my life and all this stuff and then the the next night was a bigger dose and I went back and got a bigger dose and went back and got another dose and just rode it out and [ __ ] loved it and uh it was really just that first and he said that the first night was kind of a death and the second night was a kind of a rebirth and uh I'm like okay whatever so the last night you started at like 7 I think and it's over at 12:30 uh the that experience and then the last night you start at 5: and it goes till 10:00 the next day so you do smaller doses but you do them all night
long and uh and and that was really groovy for me but this one chick completely wigged out and uh and I mean kicking screaming yelling really unpleasant and uh they had to take her outside and tie up before she hurt somebody and I thought when aren't these guys wigging out over this cuz I am you know because it looked like she was going to hurt somebody or hurt herself and they were having a hard time controlling her and she didn't even know that it was an iasa place she thought it was a yoga place and her husband signed her up for it now she had done iasa three other nights and was fine but this time she she just [ __ ] lost it and uh so they took her outside and they just bound her up and they stayed with her and but but here's the thing when it's over it's over and even though everybody was really concerned about her she came back in with the biggest smile on her face and she had some demons and she needed to work through it and it was horrible and I know what it was that happened to her uh because it they told me and uh and it was awful awful awful so some stuff from her past some stuff from her past uh horrible I won't even say it and um so so she went from who knows what in what place she was in to the biggest smile I've ever seen and she worked through whatever it was and uh uh so um and then I met some friends down there they got married the next morning we'd been up all night and you know some ceremony thing but I was just didn't it you know and then uh jeie my girlfriend came out and then I was going to stay for two weeks and I decided not to so I'm going to go back another week and uh do it again when are you go back I don't know I haven't decided my schedule's so packed now I can't even find a spot for it and uh and then I'm going to do standup for one more year and then I'm going to retire watch the entire episode for free only on Spotify