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the jurogan experience but i mean again the news business is so star for revenue um that they'll you know they'll bend to anybody basically did you see that i mean i know jimmy dore covered it but quite a few other people have realized it now the amount of money the that bill gates has spent on uh influencing media no i i i did it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 million dollars geez he's donated to these various media organizations which for sure has some sort of an impact on how they cover him right well of course yeah and look the once upon a time we were i have said it many times we were trained to know uh that for instance think tanks right like uh who they who was funding them because think tanks are who get quoted uh in the new york times in the washington post right so they're generating research that goes to journalists and and like sort of surreptitiously that that ends up becoming what's covered and so that's how like the gates foundation for instance will work its way into coverage uh you know it'll sponsor research in an area like education that's one of the things i'm covering now um and its research becomes you know [Music] it gets it gets into the news that way but we were supposed to once have uh uh you know our ears up and be conscious of who was paying for all this this research where was that information coming from and you know people don't really even think about it now see if you can find that story jimmy i'm looking right now i'm reading a article about someone uh last year actually was looking into it uh here i'll show you journalism skates keepers is what it's called um columbia journalism jfu is that uh was respected yeah i mean look they've had their issues but they're that's the top media criticism outlet right okay so this is last year says i recently examined nearly 20 000 charitable grants the gates foundation
made through the end of june and found that more than 250 million going towards journalism receipts included news operations like the bbc nbc al jazeera pro-publica national journal the guardian univision medium the financial times the atlantic the texas tribune gannett washington monthly le monde le mans is that i say it yeah le mans and the center for investigative reporting charitable organizations affiliated with news outlets like bbc media action the new york times neediest cases fund media companies such as the participant whose documentary waiting for superman supports gates agenda on charter schools journalistic organizations such as the pulitzer center on crisis reporting the national press foundation and the international center for journalists and a variety of other groups creating news content or working on journalism such as the leo burnett company an ad agency the gates that gates commissioned to create a new site to promote the success of aid groups in some cases recipients say they distributed part of the funding as subgrants to other journalistic organizations which makes it difficult to see the full picture of gates funding into the fourth estate yeah and and as a reporter you may not may or may not be aware of all the different ways that money will get in you know work its way into the business but unconsciously it just sort of seeps in like right and that's how it works like you nobody comes and tells you well don't cover this um well maybe they do now actually or or you know take this approach to covering education you what ends up happening is that you just kind of get a feel based on the reaction of your editor to whatever pitch uh you're giving at the moment hey would you you know would you be interested in the story about whether or not um you know this approach to uh standardized testing worked right uh and if the editor says yeah that's interesting maybe right then you know just never to broach that again right but if if it's with you know in the cert in the right ideological slant um they're going to be hot for it right interesting yeah and that's how it
works that's how it works with everything it works you know and with foreign policy uh i mean when i worked in russia um if you send the story if you pitch the story to an american editor about how uh the u.s base the u.s funded reform effort was working and there was a growing middle class in provincial russia that was prospering and people were now taking vacations to ibiza and stuff like that you could get anybody to buy that story but if you came to them with a story about how actually um you know the trend the transformation of capitalism has been really slow people have lost their health care um there's an out explosion of violent crime and an addiction and people are more and more gravitating towards right wing politics uh you know in large part because of the the rapid changes that they weren't ready for um you could not get that story sold right so what ended up happening when i was in russia is they kept sending back all these these positive reports about what was happening this was before putin um and americans got this idea that things on russia were going great you know uh and the the company was really prospering in fact you know i was doing stories when i was there about how money didn't even exist in in the in the villages like the only people who would actually have cash in in most remote russian villages would be pensioners because they would get it um you know once a month from the mail system uh i went to places where the people actually bought and sold things with uh moonshine like the russian equivalent of moonshine because that was like a unit of currency i think wow they were doing subsistence farming i mean it was completely [ __ ] like life in rural russia but if you picked up the new york times what you read is you know the emerging middle class was doing great you know people have people have vcrs
and in samara and stuff like that and that's how it works like you you you get a sense of what they want you give it to them and you know over time you just stop thinking about it uh but it's it's not a healthy way to do it