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the jurogan experience but for young people in particular is his point it's having really bad effects i mean he looks at like he charts the the introduction of social media and the rise of like self-harm hospitalizations for self-harm especially among adolescent girls yeah it's like been doubling every three years basically since facebook was introduced well it's really fun the introduction of the smartphone it's really really 2007. it's uh the coddling of the american minds people haven't read it it's really good and talking to jonathan and getting the the sort of he it's almost like he's he's sending out a warning like the british are coming the british it really is like it the the dangers are only going to be exacerbated by ar and whatever new technology comes along and haptic feedback suits and all this chaos the all the new stuff that's going to be invented over the next 10 years 20 years is only going to be more immersive yeah absolutely i mean he just thinks that the the social media companies have to be forced to at least not make not let kids on well not like i mean like at the very least it should be like cigarettes and booze where they make a genuine attempt to keep people under the age of 16 or 18. it's interesting because there are some things that for those kids are this is what's really fascinating the way china is handling it is so different than america china's version of tick tock celebrates academic achievements athletic achievements it's all science projects all these different fascinating things and they lock it out at 10 pm at 10 p.m no one's on it those kids are not allowed to get on it because they're trying to encourage achievement right they're trying to encourage like like china has a program to try to make men more manly like this open program where they're trying to make men more masculine they're doing all these things with like this idea of engineering a society of more accomplished more successful people whereas what are we doing on tick tock kids are [ __ ] dancing and they're kardashian they're screaming about veganism and how blue their hair is and it's it's wild
yeah i wonder the difference is interesting because i don't think we should engineer the way our society interacts with each other but if you look at the way china's doing it like they're doing it clearly with this idea that they want to stimulate young minds and they want to promote this idea that doing things that you are you know like you're going to become more accomplished you're going to become more athletic you're going to like these are what they're trying to encourage i a mean bit reticent about hauling anything up that the chinese communist party does as being a great idea and if we're worried about things like the new york post article about joe biden's son's laptop being suppressed by twitter just wait a year and all of the people who are being suppressed on on conventional social media outlets like just way to get a load of what uh a bureaucracy would do if they had control over what the algorithm shows no denying that no no one would ever uh argue that with a [ __ ] clear conscience yeah so i mean what do you do like i mean the other thing that height says is maybe you try to force them to make the algorithms like not constantly addictive because i mean i think what people don't necessarily always think about when you're using these platforms is that they're not blank open spaces into which your friends and the people you're following are commenting and then it's just kind of you know filtering down in a neutral way it's obviously being rejigged at the back end to maximize the time that you're spending on the site all i want all the algorithm wants to do is to keep you there for one second longer so they can maximize the time that you're spending on the on on the platform john heights like could you change that algorithm so that it's like you know more fulfilling stuff instead of more addictive stuff and i'm like i don't know how you would legislate that i don't know how you would make them do that that's what china's doing i think essentially the only way to do it is to have no algorithms just allow people to search what they enjoy and find it on their own the suggested side of youtube that's what gets you yes and it seems
like they've stopped playing auto playing new shows is that real jimmy like when i watch youtube it doesn't necessarily always do that anymore like sometimes it just shows me a new a new video but sometimes it doesn't sometimes the video just stops it could just be like maybe just change the default setting to off and maybe if it's turned back on or something it could be something like that well that's probably good but if there was no algorithm whatsoever you know the argument would be that well there's probably a lot of things that you would be introduced to that you would enjoy that you're going to miss if there's no algorithm at all yeah sure and that would be fine i mean isn't that the way that i wander through life normally like there's all kinds of stuff that's out there that i guess because it's not being constantly shoved into my face like i don't necessarily need the most addictive food at all times i can also just sometimes have a salad right but the business model for them like they're concerned with the most engagement and the best way to get the most engaged is find out what josh zepps likes and then show it to him over and over and over again yeah you know i mean as you say once ar and like whenever you talk about like haptic feedback suits and stuff like that my mind just goes to like once porn gets mastered in that world there's gonna be a large percentage of the population that's just in the basement for long periods of time