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[Music] hello joe good to see you yeah you heterodox individual you i am very heterodox i like to use that word because i never use that word well you used it i just did yeah i think it's the first time i've ever used it on the podcast yeah definitely not orthodox so tell me what you were just telling me about uh a conference we were having a conversation where i was saying i wonder how many undercover feds have either gotten on the podcast or tried to get on the podcast yeah it's like i've had a couple places one i had this guy come up to me and we were like just in the crowd right it wasn't like i just got off stage or anything like that and he comes up to me and he's like you know if we had to narrow it down to like you know the top 10 12 individuals pulling all this crazy stuff that's going on in the world could you name who they are like who are they and the question is you know what are we gonna do about them you know we're gonna have to take them out you know we're gonna have to go off when do we get to go off it was like the statement when do we get to go off on them like that violence are we gonna have to take them out we're gonna have to take them out like i'm looking at this guy thinking you're not taking anybody out but but what are you doing like what is this yeah yeah like why are you asking me this question i had another guy i did a talk and this was totally awesome uh event like there was a mechanical bull in the venue like it was nuts and i'm doing this like professional talk and everything's nuts and this guy's drunk afterwards i don't know probably just drunk maybe he's not and he's like i wanted to ask you one question man and i was like what is it after i talked and he was like when do we get to start shooting them and i was like holy [ __ ] dude no you know we don't like that's the trap if anything like you don't do you think that guy was just crazy or do you think that guy was a fed and how do you know the difference that's the question i don't know i actually suspect that guy was just drunk and shooting off at the mouth and
frustrated but i don't know and then the weirdo guy that was like if we could narrow it down to who are the because that guy wouldn't leave me alone this the first guy told me about first like he wouldn't leave me alone it's like he just kept asking questions and like trying to talk to me and i was like huh that epps guy that everyone has decided was an agent provocateur that was at the january sixth thing they still haven't found that guy yeah or excuse me they still haven't charged that haven't charged that guy yeah very suspicious circumstances around that the weirdest right right like let's just you know we'll have him on the list of people we're interested in and then people are going to say you know we're all screaming he's a fed he's a fed and then there's all this video of him doing weird stuff and people saying fed fed fat yeah and then all of a sudden they're like off the list he's not on the wanted list anymore yeah not wanted not being charged it's so odd while other people are rotting in jail yeah yeah well then when ted cruz grills the fbi lady and and she's like i can't answer that i can't answer that the answer to those questions is very simple no no no and she's like i can't answer that question yeah did you did the fbi or any agents cite violence i can't answer that what i mean i understand the fifth amendment nobody can you know be compelled to incriminate themselves but that does the fifth amendment even apply when you're a representative of an organization because it's a different scenario you she's a representative of the fbi it's not like she's incriminating herself right yeah i don't i don't i don't even know in that case but that looked bad it looks strange it's like what are you doing like all those questions did they incite violence like you should never be exciting violence you're the fbi you're the federal bureau of investigation you shouldn't be inciting violence ever that should be we didn't never do that yeah that's something you don't know that's the opposite of what we do right that's literally the opposite of what we exist to do we're completely not interested in that yeah but no that's not the answers no i'm
sorry i can't answer that question i can't answer that question either i'm just going to give that answer to all of your hard questions i can't answer that i i've been trying really hard not to uh go down a klaus schwab rabbit hole oh buddy we're probably going to do that oh my god someone sent me a video of klaus schwab introducing xi jinping the other day have you seen that yeah jamie pull that up because klaus schwab now i do not know i know very little about klaus schwab i read his book but he seems like a bad guy in a batman movie he came straight out of central casting yourself yes it's like it's not even james bond though it's like a spoof it's so over the top yeah so he's wearing like a space suit when he's not wearing like his uh you know business suit or whatever it's like what is this guy he wears a spacesuit have you not seen the spacesuit no oh man it's like this leather thing with like a triangle oh it's really yeah it's freaky now what does he do he is the i guess chairman ceo of this thing called the world economic forum which is like a billionaire's club where fancy pants people like you know titans of industry government officials ngo people all the big philanthropists can show up and like rub elbows at davos and and chill out and basically it's like it's like a big country club for like the biggest players in in government industries what spacesuit what the [ __ ] what is that he's so weird he wears that all the time no well i mean he's got a suit and tie other at other times i don't know how often he i don't know the guy but look at that what is that like i wouldn't even wear that on halloween what is the uh the the the caption say that there's just someone's tweet didn't say anything um see if you can find the video of him introducing xi jinping because he gives this uh bizarrely glowing introduction oh yeah to the lead of the chinese communist party listen to this look at it it's bond villain yeah human destiny give me give it to me from the beginning i want to hear the whole thing
human destiny oh okay in the last five years the world has become more interconnected than ever but in many ways it's becoming even more fragmented and polarized polarized china has made significant economic and social achievements under your leadership in the first three quarters of 2021 china's economy grew by over 9 you have achieved a goal to become a moderately prosperous society in all respects mr president i strongly echo your remarks in 2017 that mankind has made progress by surmounting difficulties and when encountering difficulties we should join hands and rise to the challenge i believe this is the best time for leaders to come together and work jointly for the world to become more inclusive more sustainable and more prosperous we now welcome his excellency xi jinping president of the people's republic of china professor claus schwab ladies and gentlemen friends is that not so weird and you know who spoke like right after that right who valje no yeah really yeah whoa and then if you listen actually i don't think we should try to deal with the the listening to all of what she says but he's like he's like you know he goes into this whole thing it's like a paraphrase of lenin he's all like you know there's an old chinese saying that the everything contains its contradictions that's actually an old marxist saying is that everything contains contradictions the taoists don't i mean they have that with the yin yang thing but they don't really have everything contains its own contradiction they say things contain their opposites which is different and
so marx was like everything contains its own contradiction which you know capitalism makes a lot of wealth but then it makes a lot of poor people so it's got its own contradiction and he says we got to lean into the she said to paraphrase them but we got to lean into the contradictions what lenin said when people were starving like he's like literally starving people and killing people he's like accelerate the contradictions because if you make them see how terrible life is by showing them the contradictions oh we're supposed to have this great society and look you're suffering you're starving then they'll want to have a revolution and so it's like that's the thing that schwab there just introduced was the speech about that he also says we can't think of ourselves anymore as like 190 little boats like the different countries the world to solve problems like climate change or i guess covid like that went real well and we got to think of ourselves as one big boat like one world government or something and then she is the guy that's the model for this like and then we see you know mr space suit there saying i strongly echo your comments you know prosperous yeah prosperous the guy's weird i read his book he's got a book called coven 19 the great reset he's got a few books actually i've read some of some of his other ones but i read all of that one and it's just corporate gobbledygook but what he says is that covet 19 is the ideal window of opportunity a very narrow window of opportunity to reset the whole world's economy and he wants to create this whole new like world economy he calls stakeholder capitalism through what he calls a public private partnership where he gets these government guys to sign up with his corporate dudes at davos and make a partnership the u.n is actually usually the public thing and then he's the corporate guy bringing them together in world economic forum to make public private partnership but if we go back to mussolini you know what what was his definition of fascism it's corporatism it is a fusion of the state
and corporation and you're like huh what's going on here well this great reset thing is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy theory conversation yeah that we're experiencing the great reset and they're that they crash the economy on purpose you know i i don't think that's true in terms of like what they did to los angeles i think it's incompetence and i think there's a bunch of people that wanted to do something that showed that they were trying to enact measures to protect people and in doing that they crippled a lot of these restaurants and bars and small businesses and they did it because it didn't affect them at all financially like if it had any effect on them financially like if but it did in a lot of cases like look at how the billionaires are all way richer now like right but that's what i'm saying i'm seeing the politicians if it affected the politicians financially then they would have never enacted those measures like if the politicians got paid based on how well the economy did in their city let's say if you're a mayor and if your economy crashes you lose all your money you would never see lockdowns you would never see like i have a friend she lives in mexico and she was telling me that in mexico nothing's shutting down because the cartels won't allow it right right because the cartels make a percentage of the money that these businesses get so they get paid so if the businesses go under the cartels don't make any money right jamie you have covet do you got the [ __ ] breathe it's everything you know everything's crazy can't be coughing out water can't be coughing in front of us yeah it's dangerous times to just be out now coughing that's almost it's attempted murder but she was telling me that when when they are in mexico that nothing shut down everything's wide open all the restaurants all the bars nothing ever shut down and the reason why she said we're free is because the cartel she was like loling when she said this but right
well i mean what that tells you then is that you know there's either absolute disconnect with the politicians or that they're you know being taken care of some other way the the that's the conspiratorial side that there's money coming in some other way so their paycheck is not dependent upon the economy locally but it's dependent on some other factor well when local government it's depending upon taxes like my friend his brother works for the whatever coveted response thing in california and there was a conversation when they were shutting down outdoor dining at one point in time and he protested and he said there is no evidence that there's any spread that's because of outdoor dining or any outdoor activities and she said it's about optics oh yeah well so this was a conversation he had with a real public official who's in charge of making these decisions so this is like this idea that it's all like motivated by some conspiracy to reset the economy i don't think that's the case i think what's going on is that it's a lot of incompetence and a lot of really dumb people a lot of foolish people that are running some aspects of government then you have people that are taking advantage of that sure the billionaires are most certainly getting richer and just by definition if you close mom and pop stores where are people gonna buy their stuff well they're gonna have to go to target they're gonna have to go to the big places yes and then if you're you make you can loot it you can loot targets and you can shoplift at walgreens or whatever where are they gonna go online amazon and you know you can kind of see how all of these you know really crooked business practices can kind of multiply in this kind of an environment so do you think that like places like san francisco and areas of california where they've enacted these really [ __ ] stupid laws where you can steal up to 900 and something dollars worth of stuff and they don't arrest you at all so people just grab stuff they throw it in a bag and they walk right out the door and no one does anything to stop it do you think that those laws are enacted knowing that they're going to kill these
businesses knowing that this is going to prop up online businesses like amazon and larger places that have the ability to to do that well and to protect you know i'm in my 40s which means that i never underestimate any longer the depths of human stupidity so it is possible that they're just stupid and don't realize the extraordinarily obvious thing that literally everybody yells at them but no i actually i i'm inclined to believe that they know to some degree what they're doing and i wouldn't even be surprised to find out that there's some kind of weird backroom deals and that's what this new economy is supposed to be it's like we go back to schwab his thing is he calls it stakeholder capitalism you don't care about the shareholder anymore because a profit isn't too dangerous of a motive you care about these people that are called stakeholders you're going to tell you you know they're experts in environmental policy they're experts in in health policy they're experts in uh trust the experts in social policy you know how i feel about that these critical theories or whatever uh they're experts in in best practices and governance and they've created these whole these these whole like investment metrics called esg metrics environmental social governance metrics and they score your company based on how high up and down you are but it's only really big companies that get to play in that game and so the people who are the experts get to be the stakeholders who are going to speak on behalf of everybody else and say well that's bad environmental policy so your company is going to get a bad score so maybe we won't carry you in our you know mutual fund or whatever else we're not going to trade your stock we're not going to manage your assets whether it's blackrock or vanguard or any of these huge entities or the world economic forum and we're not going to give you the favors anymore and so there's this perverse scoring system that's worked its way in and the goal is to shift out of that now what are the politicians doing you know well i mean we see obviously there's corruption somewhere we got insider trading happening in washington that's like coming out all
over the place um no no no no that's fine that should be allowed the community the participating in the economy yeah yeah it's like we should start letting like we should certainly in the mma guys like the ufc guys bet on their own fights like right why not you know you know they used to have a pool was uh something that you could bet on at casinos they did it once and when they did it the guy who was the lowest seed won the tournament and uh it was embarrassing like guys were like missing balls dead in the hole they were doing it on purpose because they bet against themselves yeah and they bet on this one guy right they all chopped up the money how about that how crazy how wild yeah they might gain a bad incentive structure who's 15 to one interesting what do you think would happen if he won yeah so they stopped because pool players are like kind of notoriously shady folks a little bit yeah well so they stopped doing that but yeah that would that would definitely happen if fighters were allowed to bet on themselves but fighters do bet on themselves because there's more money for them if they win right right in the long term of their career correct correct but there's there's not a whole lot of incentive like you don't have some bookie over here who's going to make it up to you if you you know get your face messed up kind of on purpose are you sure you're worried about that though there's there is concern like i'm sure the fbi has investigated boxing matches and stuff along those lines i guarantee they have well you know they investigate a lot of things the the department of justice is investigating moms and dads you know for showing up to school boards and yeah they're also investigating maybe some real crime but not the guy that came here to texas from from britain who shouldn't have been able to even get in what's that that guy that just shot that took the hostages at the synagogue right yeah um i forgot about that because there's so many of these goddamn things happening yes it's really really
million things it was like last week yeah would you like the other day so where'd he come from he was he's british but he's got a name that would indicate that he's islamic um but he's got a british accent as well and he came in from the uk and he was like eyeballs on him from mi5 or something like this you know they knew he was a problem and he comes over to the to the us somehow he manages to get a firearm next thing you know he's at a synagogue taking hostages doing whatever they do they deal with the situation and the fbi and the president come out and they're like well we don't know the mode of the guy screaming his motive while he's doing it and you know we have no idea why this happened and you know we have to do an investigation it's just the the weirdest farcical thing and then meanwhile you know the big joke that was going on the internet with it was well they didn't have time to catch this guy coming into the country because they were too busy you know investigating parents at school board meetings who are showing up because of that you know what that letter right which letter so somewhere in the bi it's now been shown like actual journalists azernamani for example i think it was leading on this dug up proof that the somebody in the biden administration maybe at the department of education maybe it was cardona himself gets this letter this memo and it goes to the national school board association nsba and so they actually just send it back to the biden administration and say parents are showing up at school boards there's all this violence in danger but it came from inside the house sent it to the school board association which most of its members didn't even know that this was happening and a lot of them have disavowed it and then they send it back to the doj and then merrick garland comes out and says that they're going to start watching parents at school board meetings like they're domestic terrorists and they
have now i did hear about that but this is it because they're worried that there's gonna come a time where a parent crosses a line and shows up armed and does something insane i mean it's they that's the perpetual you know justification for that kind of thing but at the same time it's you know they they literally sent out a memo to treat parents showing up at school board meetings as though they are uh domestic i mean they can't think i mean obviously they want some parents to show up at school board meetings because they want to be active in i'm not sure that's the case anymore you don't think they want any parents showing up at school board meetings you think they think that it's all negative and that i mean they is too big to say you know everybody everywhere but you actually saw that attitude you know in the governor's race in in virginia last year when you know yunkan beat mcauliffe and uh did he beat mcauliffe or i forget how it works out terry mcauliffe yeah and so uh because northam is the previous governor because virginia has this weird rule where you can't be governor twice in a row oh really yeah so they have to have two people each time and so anyway mcauliffe came out and he said that they don't want the parents shouldn't have a role in shaping curriculum and that they don't want that going on amid these huge scandals you know they have this this exactly what people said would happen a number of years ago this kid claiming to be that is clearly disturbed claiming to be non-binary wearing a skirt goes in and rapes a nine ninth grade girl in the bathroom exactly what people said you remember back in like 2015 people like if we do the trans bathroom thing that way we're gonna see sexual assaults well that's exactly what happened and then the schools cut like the school district covers it up they tried to tell the parents to keep their mouth shut about it yeah and they they they all these activists showed up when
the dad of the girl comes to this meeting or whatever and they provoke him and he like flipped out i don't know if he hit somebody or if he just started screaming at me he might have hit somebody and then he becomes like you know the worst thing ever and then i mean there's a lot of stuff right now going on where they don't actually want parents involved they want to control the kids they think that the school is the professionals the experts and that they know the best policies for masks they know the best policies for curriculum that's where they're getting all this social emotional learning and critical race theory and the queer theory gender theory stuff rammed into the schools and they're like no you know parents if you don't like this you're not the experts you don't understand and you're seeing school boards where you know they're not taking public comments or they're they're limiting those rather significantly now because i don't think they do want parents speaking up i don't think they want parents involved the thing about it is if you look at it reasonably like if there was any other time in history you know in the history of like my life and you thought of parents coming in to tell teachers how the the kids should be taught you're like well what do the parents know but then when you see the some of the ridiculous [ __ ] that kids are getting taught in school today and then if you follow like libs of tick-tock and you see some of these crazy groomer teachers groomer teachers yeah it's so bizarre it's so bizarre to see these people making these videos because they're doing it like out in the open they're like we are going to teach your kids the right things we are going to teach your kids to respect us we are going to teach your kids yeah to you know like whatever theories that they want like and it's they're doing it in this weird arrogant assertion that they're going to indoctrinate these children into their ideology and they're literally like mocking or taunting the parents that we're going to do this to your kids yeah and it's i don't understand the motivation i don't understand why they would make those videos i don't understand why anybody would hire those
people to be teachers and why they wouldn't fire them immediately upon seeing those videos i know they did fire that one teacher uh she was i think she was a professor who was talking about um people who are attracted to uh underage people that we shouldn't call them pedophiles professor that's right right yeah i'd forgotten about that she she said we shouldn't call them pedophiles yeah we should call them minor attracted minor attracted persons yeah which the map but the p and map should just stand for pedophile because that's what minor attracted means well this idea that like you can be a pedophile but not act on it which i guess is true i guess for some reason you could be attracted to children and not act on it the question is like what is happening how does that happen like what is it about a human that would have that sick inclination to want to have a sexual interaction with a child like what is that yeah i have no idea it's got to be like some cycle of abuse like abuse generates abuse generates abuse right like that's not a healthy thing like that's not good has ever ha i mean i wonder if there's like in the literature if there's ever any instances of that happening without abuse yeah i don't know i i do know how i got into schools i yeah i've researched well please tell me well i mean a lot of people don't know that the radicals of the 60s there's this book it's called the critical turn in education and i've been doing a podcast series on this book uh it's written by a guy named isaac gotzman he's a marxist education theorist from iowa state and at the very beginning it's like literally the first sentence of the book he says you know well where did all the radicals from the 60s go well it's they didn't go to yuppiedum they didn't go to i forget what he lists a couple of things he says no they went to the classroom and so a lot of those radicals violent radicals 68 69 early 70s you know we could name angela davis for example as a key figure literally went to k-12 activism and through the 70s they kind of prepared
the ground by about 1985 though what this so-called critical turn in education which means critical theory or as this gotzman says he says we shouldn't call it critical theory should call it what it is we call it critical marxism by about 85 these guys had basically become dominant in terms of setting teacher college training so if you're going to go to teacher college somewhere marxists are teaching you how and they bring in this guy from brazil his name is paula freieri uh straight up marxist educator i've read his books he's like quotes or marx he quotes lenin he's like this is how it should be he's got this total weird idea like teachers and and students kids shouldn't have adults and children shouldn't have like a differential in power they should be like equals with one another which is a terrible idea because kids need structure and boundaries and especially in a learning environment why would anybody what is the what's the motivation behind the goal is to train them in what he calls conscientization i didn't say that right it's a hard word to say and here we are but to raise in them what's called a critical consciousness which is a marxist consciousness of oppression in society basically he's looking around and he says people are going to realize that they're dependent based on the society that they live in and rather than saying okay maybe you are you know maybe you're working a [ __ ] job maybe you're stuck let's teach you responsibility how to take control of your own life and you know raise yourself up and work hard and put your head down or whatever he says no we're going to go with the collective route instead of the individual round we're going to we're going to try to have a revolution ferrari famously says in this book from 85 which brought him into the u.s a book called the politics of education he says that the revolution meaning communist revolution has to be perpetual he says if a revolution ceases to be a revolutionary it becomes a status quo and so he says as you as you awaken to this critical consciousness this conscientization which i still can't say
it's well i've even got it stuck in portuguese in my head because i don't read portuguese but he it's usually not translated and i can't i can say that worse like that's way bad if i try that one concients it to chow or something like that and anyway it means to awaken to consciousness and so their goal by the mid 80s in education was to start turning education more and more and more along this erase all power differentials awaken a consciousness and this queer theory stuff fits right within that so you're doing that at the identity level by breaking down the barriers between gay and straight male and female etc so it latches right into that in fact the communists have been using techniques in sexual liberation et cetera back to the 1920s this dude george lucach overthrew hungary or helped overthrow hungary in their communist revolution in 1919 was um he he was he became like their deputy commissar of education and his whole thing was like let's sexualize the kids because it'll break them away from their religion it'll break them away from their parents they'll hate their parents because they won't understand you know and so he's like sexual let's sexualize the kids this has been a thing that they've done throughout a lot of communist attempts whether in the 20s and 30s and then again in the 60s with you know herbert marcuza leading like the sexual liberation kind of side of marxism through the 60s and they're doing it again and so these people are marxists they started to take over education schools and they're not going to say no to this stuff when it comes knocking on the door so this book again critical turning education says it went in three stages first there was marxist critiques in education then by the mid 80s and early 90s the post-structuralist feminists took over the critique of education and that's where they brought the queer stuff in and i mean queer with like official queer theory i'm not doing the speak clear for the people who hate us look at the queer stuff yeah the queer stuff yeah and which by the way the definition of that is an identity
without an essence i did this podcast about this paper by hannah dyer uh she wrote a paper in 2016 about queer futurity and education something early childhood education and she says in there explicitly that the point of queer theory is not to create a stable lgbtq identity it's in fact to not have stable identities at all because those become the status quo and that would be the problem so you have to be constantly overturning that i don't know if you know who dan savage is yeah yeah it gets better that guy the whole last third of the papers criticizing it gets better saying well that means he's just admitting that it's bad for kids like it's this message of hope that was super effective at curbing and it's get it gets better means reaching out to young gay kids to tell them that there's going to come a point in time when it's going to feel okay yeah like it's going to be better you'll find your community yeah it's a lot of it's awkward now like life's weird it's hard it's maybe it's harder for you because of some stuff you didn't sign up for and it gets better man don't don't give up it gets better and he even has this messaging and they're like it's going to make you stronger you know it's super positive actually and so she just takes him to task for this so this is the post-structural feminine feminists turned into the queer theorists they got eaten up by judith butler coming along and saying well if gender is a social construct well maybe sex is a social construct too that's douglas murray talk about this uh a little bit yeah well he talks about the end of civilization yeah yeah and that and then when civilization started to crumble they become obsessed with gender and yeah androgyny and yeah yeah the whole thing and in homo normativity over heteronormativity he's got a whole thing about that like they're trying to normalize that which is abnormal and that's really the definition of queer theory but what's funny it's fascinating that you see douglas has a free pass because he's gay because he he and he's brilliant so when he talks about these things they don't know what to do yeah like when he starts talking about the these you know considerable issues when it comes to
like trying to figure out what's what you know he can kind of get away with stuff and when when he explains that at the end of all these civilizations with the roman civilization the the greek empire they they all started falling into this thing where they wanted to redefine gender they do yeah you really see it in like the statues and stuff yeah it's really it's really interesting they go from being like these super buff dudes and like yeah sexy babes and then you know all of a sudden they all look like you know an anime character or something i don't know they look like npcs eventually is what they look like it's a it's such a weird time because everything has happened so rapidly like if you go back and it really is from the onset of social media if you go back to pre-social media to what the world was like to today the change has been so radical oh yeah it's crazy how fast it is i mean think about it we're totally connected to one another yeah we can form our alliances now worldwide based on what we think what we agree with what we think is funny what we don't rather than oh yeah we're all happy to be in texas so we've got to get along also the amount of people that are interacting on social media is not like you know i did a bit about it last night it's not the the large percentage of the population it's a small percentage of the population that's shaping the way the culture thinks about things because they're the ones that are talking the most right and so these are people that are obsessed people absolutely obsessive obsessives yeah and socially awkward ones too yeah a lot of them yeah you know we don't i know i'm going to sound like jordan peterson with the whole you know we don't know the effects that this will bring but you know but really we don't we suddenly went from with the advent of social media we went from an era where extroverts by kind of definition kind of ruled the public sphere introverts did a lot of important work we're not to discount that but once you get them online
now introverts have this hugely expanded voice while extroverts are out doing cool stuff and they're not on the internet and then you add in people with like social anxiety issues well they're not out hanging out and like going to the bar because they have social anxiety what are they doing they're on the internet yelling at people yeah and then you get certain ones these people who are absolute obsessives and i'll tell you about this fanatic thing this obsessive so the military it turns out eisenhower after world war ii was like all right these black soldiers fought like hell for us we're going to desegregate the military this is way before like the schools or any other things like we're going to do this and so they're like how do we integrate the units right how do we do this and so they started this thing with these different approaches to diversity training what we would recognize is so-called diversity training now and the first program they had they called it putting them on the hot seat and what they would do is they would basically do what diversity training in workplaces does now you know they'd put like some guy down there and make him confess all of his different racist ideas and you know then have like a lesson about it and like everybody would have to confess their racist stuff and they put the black people there and like oh i've always saw this bad stuff about you and what they found out was that for a small percentage of the group it worked it made them more aware of these attitudes and biases and what a jerk there being and it worked and then for most of the people they actually had way less of a problem with race than anybody was assuming and it didn't really do anything plus it's all just kind of a waste of time and nobody likes administrative bs anyway they just want to do the stuff but then for another small segment maybe about i don't know what percentage so i don't want to make some number up but some small percentage they literally became fanatics that's the word in in the report they became fanatics who wouldn't do anything except go around and call everybody racist all the time for everything and twitter yeah it was
so bad that they had to cancel the program and that's right that's exactly right it's twitter and so you know these obsessives i just mentioned you know post-structural feminism working into the critical turn in education or whatever critical race theory by the way is the third step gotzman says is that turned education but um you know i just mentioned that but they were the bloggers man back in like 0809 it was like every blog in the universe was some feminist woman bitching about something and like bitching about somebody and bitching about you know can we why can't we grow out our armpit hair why can't we stink why do we have why can't we wear you know whatever clothes we want why can't we do this why can't we do that and if it's a patriarchy patriarchy these people there's your obsessives right yeah they and they totally dominated that blog sphere when before like even like that was like pre-social media or barely social media time and that's where everybody was like sharing these ideas and so these obsessives gained an extraordinarily outsized voice now have you heard of renormalization no okay this is this is a big idea because it it's the idea that a very small group of in extremely intolerant people can change a very large number of normal people so three or four percent being just absolutely intolerant can move the entire needle and the way it works the example i saw this video on on youtube so i'm stealing this the way it works though is like you can imagine like a family of four and you got like you know the daughter or whatever decides she's vegan the teenage daughter she's like i'm vegan now and so like whoever's cooking the parents are like well i can cook two meals or i can you know get in a fight every night at dinner or i can just cook some vegan stuff right and all of your options are basically unless you're going to go kind of like hard-nosed all of your options are kind of bad except just keep the peace and that's it
be soft be nice keep the peace no struggle no no uh don't offend anybody right and so now your whole family is cooking vegan meals so now the neighborhood has a barbecue you got one girl who's actually vegan whole family's eating vegan and they're like well we need vegan options and so now the barbecue of the neighborhood's like well we got to do something for the johnsons down the street you know they're vegans now and so what can happen is like the whole neighborhood now has to accommodate vegans but there's one vegan right and you can just see how this expands out this process is called renormalization so when you have this small contingent of obsessives which these people who are in these marxist ideologies woke marxism is what i don't even call it woke anymore i call it woke marxism woke marxists are completely obsessives and they're completely intolerant anything but their way is you know sexist racist probably capitalist patriarchal and you are the worst kind of person and the dumbest person and probably crazy for not going along with him and they can renormalize an entire say social media platform at which point they have this massive amount of dominance over the national discourse well especially if that kind of ideology gets into the administration of that social media platform which it has on basically all of them yeah my friend janice pappas just got a strike against his account on youtube and i'm gonna read you the transcript of what they they struck because this is wild [ __ ] because it's it's gotten to the point where it doesn't have to have anything to do with there's not it has nothing to do with bullying nothing to do with hate nothing to do with it like he's just joking around about stuff and he makes a a point or he makes a joke that is uh it's it's essentially you know i mean he's just being silly about the gay pride parade and he said i support gay rights but can we move the gay parade tonight so i can explain gay rights to my daughter without having to
see your [ __ ] before noon that's a joke it's just a joke they gave him a strike on his account for that yeah i mean this is wild [ __ ] and then there was another one that he had that was um about uh there was another one that he had about i think it was about uh justin bieber or something like that um which was even more yeah here it is uh bieber's uh old n-word yeah this is what he posted yeah that's it but look go down below here uh yeah that's it it's the top one um jared i like to hum myself i like melodies i like to sing that's my thing son but i don't discriminate against any music you know play hootie play leonard skinner play whatever i'm down for it what what the [ __ ] is that how is that in any way like how is that the thing that they highlighted as something that that youtube is gonna ban like that doesn't even make any sense that's nuts i mean i thought play hoodie play leonard skinner play whatever i'm down for it what the [ __ ] is that how could anybody think that that is offensive i mean but that doesn't make that makes no sense that that does that makes no sense i think my example was like crazy i got a dinged for saying that onion rings cure covered that should be so obviously parody but giannis the thing is is he's a male comedian yeah and you know he jokes around about [ __ ] he's a very open-minded guy he's very progressive he's very intelligent and they're somehow or another lumping him in with like a bad person or with alt-right or whatever that's a game man that is the game i mean it's like it happens i mean it happens with [ __ ] smart people right smart people make that this they use that pejorative they you know oh these alt-right people i'm like stop you're talking about people that aren't even remotely alt-right like don't do that yeah yeah exactly i mean that was a whole thing like you know we had just the other day here on the show you had the you know tim pools alt-right or whatever it was josh steps he said that to try to diminish what
josh zep's been saying about australia because he works for australian media and he's trying to be nice nice over there no i hear you australia's scaring the [ __ ] out of me though i'll tell you that it should you know and it didn't josh and he lives there and i think you know sometimes people when they work for an organization that is going along with the government's rules and guidelines and they think everything's good and fine and you don't live in australia so you don't know yeah we're all vaccinated so we're free and you're wrong and this is right like look you're you're not convincing me by telling me that people like majid nawaz are all right that is [ __ ] nonsense right totally that's so dumb it's so crazy to call him all right and call tim pool all right as well yeah tim is if anything he's a centrist yeah he's just a guy who he's a [ __ ] he was like an on the boot a boots on the ground journalist for vice yeah yeah he was like all up in occupy yeah he was an occupy wall street guy yeah it was like right there i know tim very well he's not alt-right at all but he'll entertain a conversation with anybody he will like he had um okay he had o'keeffe from project veritas on the other day yeah and that's like that that guy's the boogeyman to the left you can't like even if what he's saying is a [ __ ] threat he's exposing threats to democracy yeah he's exposing real live corruption he's exposing real live conspiracies yeah and they're like you know but it's veritas that's veritas yeah they've somehow or another decided that an individual can be like you could it's almost like a cure to the reality of whatever he's exposing like you could say oh it doesn't matter because it's james o'keefe and you can put that on top of the thing and it all goes away yeah exactly wild it's extremely wild i mean that's the i mean that's again your show blew open mass formation psychosis well that's the right thing don't you know that's not even well yeah i saw this it's not even real i mean there's books like back to the 1800s about it but it's not a thing but it's not real it's not it's not real well i've talked there's a certain psychologist that went to a college and he told me a side of things so there's that yeah
you know for sure whatever you want to call it like something's going on where people get to feel morally superior whether they're their execs at instagram who are going to knock down or interns or whoever knocks down that account yeah and they get to be morally spear or you know look at this drop veritas just did like i don't know if that thing that they just did with the covet is like panned out or not but if it did that's like somebody should probably be looking into that you know what's fascinating is how it is completely 100 percent ignored by the left-wing media it's like it does fox is the only people covering it and how much is fox covering it quite a bit i don't watch tv so i don't know tucker's talked about it tucker's talked about it but if you look on left-wing media rachel maddow and oh it doesn't exist it doesn't exist it's it's not you even if you think it's a lie you have to cover it it's a significant issue we need to get to the bottom of it are these documents true are they correct yeah exactly is is is it true that this leaked according to the document that this leaked coven 19 it leaked actually not in november december whatever it was but in august is it true that it was created and there's these patents is it true that they knew that hydroxychloroquine and ivormectin the other things you're not allowed to say anywhere could work as curatives because that's in i don't know all the facts i don't even claim to but i know that's in the document i read the document not only that this concerted effort by a group of these people francis collins and fauci and all these people to try to demonize these distinguished intellectuals the great britain yeah yeah oxford harvard there's lots of lots of lunatic extremists there right yeah guys who were experts in their field total fringe guys oxford who's ever heard of that crap hole it's so strange and meanwhile left-wing media ignores you or ignored never happened didn't happen absolutely so the only people that you can trust that are left-wing are the independent people and that's why it's so strange
it's the strangest time ever it really is it's wonderful for independent people because for people like crystal and sauger from breaking points it's opening the door for people like the hill like kim iverson it's opening the door for people to expose these things yeah so you get a chance to see these independent people rise and then more people go hey you've got to listen to this lady talk about this she explains it in very rational factual terms like and now now people will pay attention to kim iverson now people pay attention to crystal and soccer i watched kim this morning as a matter of fact as a matter of fact she did a thing i don't know when she did it because it's on the internet so who knows when the actual video was a youtube video got sent to me and it's kim iverson and they were like what's on your mind kim she has a little segment on her show and she was like the great reset and she's like here's some key things to know about it it's like has like bullet points on the screen and it's like number one it's real it's like okay just to kind of like tie that knot a little bit tighter though we're talking about cnn the media won't talk about this these things just vanishes so do you know klaus schwab has a new book after cover 19 the great reset you know what it's called what i [ __ ] you not it's called the great narrative yeah right where's his background like i never heard of him it's very hard to find out about his background actually if you look him up it's all shadowy i was born in a cave yeah something like that i've heard stories about his parentage that probably shouldn't be repeated on air because we don't know what they are somewhere in the middle of the earth this is a secret laboratory where i was born yeah he's um but he's been doing this since the 70s like he started it wasn't called the world economic forum in 71 but that's when he wrote his first thing to try to come up with a stakeholder capitalism scam that he he's worked out and tried to foist on the world and so the great reset obviously people are like wait what is this [ __ ] it's like it's not going well for them so now he comes out with the book the great narrative and then you
look at like what cnn's doing you look at like all the left-wing media msnbc you're like and that's been the hot word of a year right the narrative the narrative the what is it january 6 has a narrative everything has a narrative what do you think the people that are on the talking heads that are on these networks how do you think that works do you think they get informed as to what the narrative is what they're allowed to and not allowed to discuss i know they're getting lists of things they're not allowed to discuss how do you know this because i know somebody went on tv and got yelled at for it uh and he well i i don't i can't verify it he the guy told me in person what did he say got yelled i'll even tell you who the guy is so it gets we're gonna name one of those names not allowed to name mike lindell the mypillow guy oh i met him at mar-a-lago last year he's a little silly he is but he said that what got him he is in fact he's quite a bit silly yeah um apparently if you get the pillows you have to put them in the dryer to activate them i don't know what that's about activate that i don't know what this is about wait a minute what are you saying i've heard that the pillows if i'm not supposed to like i don't want to like piss on the guy's business but i heard the pillows suck and then if you put them in the dryer they're really good what are you talking about like what does this pillow is it's just a pillow no it's just a just how could it change when you put it in a dryer who knows probably gets hot and like i don't know i don't have like a hot pedal i don't have like all these other people i know have these like coupon codes to like go get your my pillow hold what is this the patented fill will lock into place when laying on your back bunch my pillow registered under the curve of your neck to get the right amount of support for you as an individual what does that mean as opposed to what you as a group yeah before first use place in a dryer for 10 to 15 minutes with a damp washcloth to activate some patented interlocking fill i have no idea how it works what is in there all i know is that he got i saw him and you see a picture of these
[ __ ] things what's the deal is it just a phone pillow holy [ __ ] it's like in a little box it comes in a bag it's like a it's like all the air sucked out of it look at this place pillow in a dryer for 15 minutes before first use it says it in the bag yeah have you ever seen one of these jamie i have not needed purchased a my pillow i've gotten another route he has the slippers what kind what do you got other pillows i don't [ __ ] know i got one of these groovy uh foam ones that's like it's like a hole for your head and your head sits in there yeah it locks it in place mine's like memory foam on one side and like soft [ __ ] on top oh i love it yeah mine's on with some kind of memory foam too but it's memory foam but it's like contoured yeah it's got to be contoured ruin your life i [ __ ] my neck up i got a really stiff thick pillow and i was sleeping on it for like a couple of weeks but like i was sleeping with my head kind of bent because it's so thick yeah and i got a kink on the left side of my neck and i've been [ __ ] rubbing it out every day every day i'll work that out for you later what are you a massage therapist i was for 10 years yeah well you really i just retired my license this year yeah or last year yeah okay uh because what i've been doing is i use like uh we have this company that was the sponsor hyper ice and they have this ball it's called the hypersphere it's the [ __ ] you press a button it goes and then press another button and press it again it goes another button goes like the same button just keep pressing against those like levels of vibration that spaceballs thing by the way that scene with the radar oh really yeah you did sounds good thank you um so anyway i get this vibrating ball and i put it under my neck and then i bridge on it so i get on there that's intense dig into it yeah yeah does it work it's kind of guy yeah you can be yes you're pretty chill too though most of the time most most of the time i have a switch i don't like to keep it under wraps i think most people do yes most people do so speaking of the switch though so my pillow guy my pillow guy was flipping out like he's just like
i tried to just go up like i thought okay let's go meet the guy say hi we're like right trump's over there like let's talk and uh like he's just mad and he's like ranting about his experience on the media and i don't know if it's not like hannity or one of these guys he went on one of these fox guys and they literally on their desk had a list of stuff that if the guest goes there take it away and he went like just this is about the election fraud stuff that he got all oh yeah he went like balls to the wall into it and they like took his microphone from him and everything so there's a list of stuff they're not supposed to talk about yeah but that actually kind of makes sense because like if you're running around saying the election was a fraud that donald trump is the true president and like they can get in trouble for that like that's that's a real problem because you're promoting propaganda you're like if you have that person on your network and you're putting it out on the airwaves there's a faction of our country that really does believe the the that the true president is donald trump and that jfk junior is alive and he's going to meet donald trump in the middle of [ __ ] dealey yeah but you know what i mean like these a lot of those q and on dorks they believe that stuff right so if you go and start spouting out that kind of [ __ ] on tv on fox that's bad for business well i mean because because people have this thing about fox already right is that it's the home for like less than it sorry fox it's a home for less educated loony people that are more inclined to believe in pizzagate yeah right you know like texans yeah what no i'm just hey son of a [ __ ] that looks like you to move so when a guy like so when a guy like mike lindell is that his name yeah so when he goes on a network and he says a lot of wacky [ __ ] like he said some wacky [ __ ] before right right he has but so has i i said last night our friend but i haven't met him yet alex jones has said a lot of people haven't met alex yet no no you need to meet up yeah we got to
get together yeah we need to make that happen yeah it'll be fun um so so you anyway i think that we i actually believe that we should be having and this is what the internet's causing is a lot of open dialogue about things some of which is gonna be wacky i actually no longer worry about misinformation i actually don't worry about it anymore i worry about propaganda but i don't worry about misinformation and the reason i don't worry about misinformation is because if the ideas are out there and people are discussing them one thing you find out is that stupid stuff gets shot down fast how do you know look at the official narratives that got spun around covet and look how fast internet sleuths were like nope like what well like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin being things that you can take that might help like people were figuring that out in like march of 2020 before it was even like a thing right but there are a lot of people that don't believe in it including doctors there's a lot of doctors look i my doctor prescribed it i have several friends who have doctors that prescribe it but now they're having a really hard time finding it yeah even though it's an incredibly common medication they're trying to actively stop people from taking it yeah and there's certain doctors that they won't prescribe it for you you ask for it they'll say who would you pay attention to joe rogan or something like they literally get upset about it but there's like there's a long history of use of that stuff yeah but there isn't there's a large chunk of our cul of our country that believes that it's horse medication and that it's dangerous and now there was a line of people waiting to get into an emergency room in oklahoma for gunshot wounds because there was so many people there that were overdosing on ivermectin rolling stone said it rachel maddow said it it's 100 full [ __ ] it never happened by the way how many people are getting shot in oklahoma what do you what is it the wild west yeah you got a line of people with like gunshot wounds in their hands what the [ __ ] are you talking about it doesn't even make sense i've been to oklahoma city it's nice it's a
great place yeah no but that's what i'm saying though it's like so they've got the official narratives that they can put out and then i think that i'm not worried about misinformation in fact i think that more information is generally better but then we have this ability for these ideas to compete and for ones not necessarily that are better but often ones that are better but also ones that are you know the danger is the ones that are more um sticky or salient or interesting or that they get people's emotions going or whatever there are processes though the selection process is to let ideas rise up to the top if they're not censored that's what i'm saying right so that's what i'm saying is i don't think that we should be censoring these things like if mike lindell for example is doing this gigantic thing maybe it's all complete horseshit but he's got like the statistics and he's done all this thing and the voting machines and the dominion and he's done like he's got all this [ __ ] and like he's put millions like this maybe is a newsworthy thing if for no other reason so that it gets more eyeballs on it so people can say this is where it's [ __ ] this is where that falls apart if it's kind of like it's where this stuff gets caught up in these little corners where i can fester that i worry more about bad info i want to see it as open as possible i'm not saying that fox has to like do whatever with this programming but i'm saying that it's you know better that we're having kind of a free information economy if you will than one that's we've got the official gatekeepers of that whether they're stupid i almost said the f word professors i'm really mad at professors by the way these [ __ ] professors yeah the other day i gave this talk i said it for you for these like very nice people and you know some of them were quite religious and they were like just don't say the f word during your talk and i was like okay but what if it's like [ __ ] commies and they're like well you can say [ __ ] communist but no other way and what yeah if you say these are good on communists you can't say [ __ ] you you
could say i mean i could have said it it's like free speech right but they they they don't swear but if communist is the next word so i'm like that with professors right now in in many regards but also these media heads like i don't need an aristocracy telling me how ideas which ideas are going to be true and false now as you know we talked about post modernism last time i was here with you i'm not exactly a postmodernist but i listened i read that [ __ ] right and i didn't just read it to like oh this is why these guys are wrong i read it right i read michelle foucault for example and he talks about how power works and he's got a lot of crazy [ __ ] in there because he's ultimately at the bottom of marxist and so capitalism has to be the problem of everything but he's got a lot of stuff that we should be listening to right now what he's saying is if you have the official power he's saying it's always this but i don't think that's true but if you have the official power of like the state and the media or whatever and they get to decide what's true they impose like a narrative of truth like there's these aristocrats professors media personalities etc they get to decide what's true for everybody and that's what we all have to nod our heads and go along with uh i don't like that i think that the aristocracy that we had in the 19th century was not a great thing in 17th century 18th century i don't think that was a great thing it surfs you know getting abused and whatever else i think we've got the exact same scenario going on in the information world right now and it's the internet's breaking it free so guys like alex jones breaking it free what do they do turns out he was like right about 93 and a half percent of everything he said except for maybe the satan stuff i don't know but then right interdimensional child molesters interdimensional so but he was right about an uncanny amount of stuff an uncanny and what did they do he was the first guy they sliced him off everything they shut him down off of all of the social media that was the beginning of this he was the beginning of this and that was a guy that they felt they could justify because of sandy hook yeah and so they
used that and then they used that to silence him and then they moved forward from there and just start silencing all kinds of different people right and so like i look at that and i think no i want the opposite of that so i'd rather have you know occasionally you end up with mike lindell on fox news talking like if hannity wants or whoever it was i don't know wants to have him on the show like let it freewheel let his idea get out there and then like let's say it's 100 [ __ ] let all these geniuses on the internet because they're everywhere and they don't have anything else to do start crunching the numbers and be like here's where he made his mistake the problem is that it dismisses the credibility of fox news it diminishes the credibility of fox news i don't end that they have anything they do to people that like fox news i know but you don't think that tucker carlson's show has credibility no it does actually but what i'm saying is in general i don't like this he's got a huge pla you also have a huge platform i'm getting a platform uh you're platformed right now i am thank you for platforming i feel so platformed no uh but it's like i feel like like we don't want to have a very relatively small number of characters that head these things up getting to determine what is going to be credible i agree with you however when you're a person who's looking at this from the outside you say this guy is on tv in front of millions of people and he's saying things that are absolutely not true that are in fact dangerous to democracy because he's saying that our elections are they're invalid they're they're rigged they're fake donald trump should be the president and that allows all these other people that are doing whether it's the people that are censoring folks on youtube the people that are censoring folks on twitter they look at this and go see this is why we have to do this no because this kind of [ __ ] can get out and we have to stop this [ __ ] from getting out so if hannity or whatever these guys they can stop the most egregiously silly ideas or the provably untrue ideas yeah but so if they can stop that but we don't want like rachel maddow deciding that you
can't take a horse to warmer or no joe rogan's gray on cnn and no i'm not saying we do but i'm saying that the reason why they feel like they have to know you're right is because of the fact that it's so easy to dismiss them right now also if you look at it from a perspective like strategy there's one versus many like they're they're kind of surrounded yeah if you looked at fox news and i'm not saying like it's not a value judgment like one's wrong or once i'm i'm just saying if you looked at like the way their perspective on the right is represented in the news there's [ __ ] no one left oan that that wacky news network yeah they just got kicked off a direct tv yeah they just got kicked off tv yeah yeah well they're still on verizon right a few other those cable but directv is huge right well speaking we mentioned speaking of kicking people off mike lindell just got like his ability to bank shut down tell me what you were saying earlier because you were you glossed over it but then you stopped you said he spent millions of dollars on this [ __ ] like oh he was trying he's utterly convinced and we'll come this is actually important about the democracy point you raised um he's utterly convinced that there was you know miss pheasants with regards to malfeasance well it's probably mal actually instead of missed both her words but never miss it's less bad so we'll say malphite malphia malpheus really bad so he thinks that he thinks that they used the dominion machines they had shady programming etc and i don't know the details of his of his hypothesis but that they were changing the numbers in a particular way to move votes from one guy from from trump to biden et cetera and so he he spent millions of dollars on some kind of a statistical analysis to dig into this right and really yeah and so that's like he had his whole conference like in south dakota or something about it over like the summer last year like this is the whole thing and so he's trying to make this point and what there are like it or not millions upon millions of americans who are looking at the 2020 election and they're kind of squinting one eye and
they're like okay maybe something like i mean like maybe as many as 50 or 80 million americans are like i think something shady went on there and so he's got this hypothesis right so the distrust in the democratic process in the country is already shaken so when my my view is when somebody's bringing up a point like this it the only way like if something happens where people are suspicious enough or there's a guy that's going to devote millions of dollars to something like that you've really it's of course you could just have a crazy guy with a lot of money that's always possible but the way that you recover what's dangerous to democracy is not tying off those loose ends right so if you leave that open like the trust is already shattered right and it so what you want is this so he comes up with this hypothesis and okay and he spent all his money and he presents his evidence and then people you know as ideally transparently as possible analyze the evidence that he presents and says this is oh my god this is an emergency or er there might be something here or you know this is total [ __ ] you're crazy person and we're never going to hear from you again in any significant way go go home that is what's missing is that transparency so what's dangerous for me to democracy is the idea that they're going to be people whether it's sean hannity and fox whether it's rachel maddow on msnbc whether it's don lemon on cnn whether it's you know any anthony fauci at whatever the hell he is whether it's joe biden you know back in 1989 because he doesn't know where he is whatever it happens to be i don't think it's good for for anything if those people get to delimit what we're going to see as officially true and that's what we have to go with because that's the mess that we're in with why you got attacked for taking horse medicine even though you took the human version obviously and you took a nobel prize winning medicine with decades of uh you know science human use and science and success behind it and
that was a decision made between yourself to take it and your doctor as the consultant who recommended and was able to get you the prescription to get it that wasn't anthony fauci didn't need to intervene in that discussion you could have taken these pills which have a long time of human use and it could have done nothing it could have just given you diarrhea or you know it could have made you sick or whatever and your doctor could have reacted accordingly to try to create a treatment protocol for you tailored to what's actually going on in your individual body as you dealt with the couf you don't need a bureaucrat i think deciding no no these are the official things that we're going to say work and don't work because that's where you get yourself in these really dangerous positions i agree with everything you said have you ever listened to what mike lindell says and did you ever look at it is a bit nutty but did you ever look at his evidence about the stolen election i did not i did not it's but what do you think he's nutty about i mean i think he's nutty too but i don't have like if you cornered me and go why is he nutting like i saw him in an interview once he looked wacky well i mean yeah there's that it's probably people have that opinion of me i mean he when i met him he actually what did he say he said something really funny because he used to be on crack right really yeah he used to be like a crackhead for real i'm not making that up yeah totally and so he made some joke about how you know he said something and he was like i didn't even have to smoke crack to say that or what you know some kind of a joke like that and it's like okay anyway i i don't have the skill in fact to parse his evidence but such people do or certain people do and now this how this entrepreneur went from a crack addict to self-made millionaire yeah so this is before he was nutty this is 2017. he was like just a self-made millionaire it's like he wasn't a nut back then 2017 he was allowed to be nutty so i've been sober for over eight years yeah also 2011 smoking that rock maybe you got a really good idea yeah
really good idea where he's cracked out yeah when did he start the company let's find out when the company got started about 2012. i mean are these [ __ ] pillows worth buying i don't know i i don't have one i feel like i'm very curious i mean 2004 2004 so he started the company cracked out cracked out yeah cracked out making pillows yeah so you know did better than the kid from harvard that was trying to make pillows to compete with him that didn't go so good was there a kid from harvard david hogg oh that kid yeah he made pillows yeah he called him i think he called him like our pillow or something oh communist [ __ ] silly no oh my god that's so silly now his does anybody analyze his stuff yeah well and say the my pillow guys got a point i don't know but people could and i would rather it be out there and have that transparency to the maximum degree with people who are weighing in on this and saying no actually he's totally nuts i agree i think there should be platforms in terms of you know whether it's like a youtube or a twitter and facebook and all these fall into this thing that are accessible to all americans yeah because they're i think they're a basic human right because the right to express yourself when we live in this very strange time of misinformation disinformation the counter that should be more communication i think so and like i said i think we're actually i think like truth i actually do this sort of spiritual sounding but i think of truth like a flame like it burns its way out of boxes of lies that it gets put into that sounds like a bat midler song is there some say hello oh no it is no that's something else joe according to the headlines when i google whatever the evidence he has for voter fraud yes um from last week there's he has claims that he has evidence that will put up to 300 million americans in jail that's us we're going
to jail that's a lot of life yeah that's the easy well maybe he was doing a biden thing he's old he [ __ ] his brain up on crack and you remember when biden said like see over one billion americans have been reckoning that's vaccinated remember when you did that 300 million people belong in jail for voter fraud that's unlikely to be true unless you're talking globally in which case it's still unlikely to be true he's an entrepreneur you don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about this guy is a genius but yeah that's wacky i would love to see that shot down through robust public debate i would too but if you're hannity and you get a seven minute segment with this [ __ ] loon you don't want this guy spouting this kind of crazy [ __ ] on your show but why did you call him in the first place diminish the accuracy of your show i don't know maybe there's something else to talk about well it's maybe there's something else he's on a bit of a quest you know to prove that the voter fraud was yeah yeah so and again maybe it's hannity's not the place for it i don't know but i would rather fox though does it make sense to you that you wouldn't want someone saying that on your network um possibly it depends on its general public salience like is this a huge discussion point that fox has been dancing around a little bit here and there but so in that case it's like let's bring this guy in hear what his evidence is and then start bringing up counterpoints if you want to bring up counterpoints i i just don't want any i think that where we are trapped the most is that people like whoever it is at instagram gets to strike down your buddy and my onion ring joke and whoever it is like you were saying the the social media platform should be free for everybody i don't think that we want people that we we don't even necessarily know who they are in a lot of cases getting to make the decisions of what is and is not going to be considered true especially when they're putting flags on stuff like leonard skinner and hooty
they're doing something that is without a doubt suppressing certain views and perspectives and imagine a world where milo yiannopoulos has never been from twitter gavin mcginnis never banned from twitter yeah alex jones never banned from twitter donald trump never banned from twitter people go well those are terrible people well guess who's not banned from twitter the head of the [ __ ] taliban okay guess who's not banned from twitter cardinal ratzinger a man who is wanted for crimes against humanity who moved priests who molested children the former pope the ratzinger guy moved priests that molested children to new places where they could molest children where they molested thousands like there's they don't there there was at one point in time one priest that he moved that molested a hundred deaf kids yeah i mean this is horrible evil [ __ ] that guy's on twitter so just explain to me why that makes any [ __ ] sense at all look look around at what is actually on twitter and who's allowed to talk on twitter and you you find yourself in a very weird situation where you're trying to justify this yeah yeah and and so there's a bias with that as well this bias has a name it's called repressive tolerance repressive tolerance is the name of an essay from a marxist in the 60s uh herbert marcusa was the guy's name most influential guy in the 60s and the marxist team probably um his book from 1964 the year before the essay was called one dimensional man sold 300 000 copies so that's in the 60s right it's pretty big time and he writes this essay in 65 called repressive tolerance and he says and i i [ __ ] you not i mean we could pull up the quote it says that repressive tolerance means or actually cause it liberating tolerance liberating tolerance means uh tolerating movements from the left and being intolerant against movements from the right and so the whole tilted playing field is visible there and his justification he says is that we could have stopped world war ii we could have stopped auschwitz if we would have withdrawn democratic tolerance that's his words from hitler when he was making the
speeches and he says so this only this is censorship he says this is even pre-censorship he's like this obviously can only make sense under a circumstance it's like emergency powers right he says under a circumstance clear and present danger and then he literally goes on totally mental to say i maintain that our society is in that situation all the time thus we always have to censor the right precepts are the right he says we have to stop the idea from ever entering their head so this is where you know this kind of suppression of say mike lindell's views maybe totally batshit or alex jones's views do we have to stop the thought from ever entering the head why so that we can avoid auschwitz in a world war i don't think it's actually how it works we've got this marxist telling us that we need to tilt the playing field so that the left is always advantaged he even says in the essay that you have to to tolerate even when they're violent because revolutionary violence is different than reactionary violence so revel violence that serves causes for the left is actually breaking up an oppressive order whereas even intolerance from the right is maintaining an oppressive order so they're not on a moral level so we have to even if there's violence involved we have to tolerate whatever the left does and if there's you know even to the point of not allowing the thought to enter the head of people on the on the right we have to censor and he says pre-sensor and repress repressive tolerance we have to repress the right wing and that's the the game that we all have to live in right now um yeah sure you know ratzinger's not exactly this liberal dude right but there are occasionally these cases where something doesn't quite fit that mold but for the most part that's what we're seeing like everybody else you named is a right-wing dude yeah and the suppression is absolutely not uh i mean we you and i know right now that if we were gonna go on twitter we pull out our phones right now we're gonna get on
twitter and it's like all right let's do a contest to see who can get banned from twitter first like you you know exactly what types of opinions are going to get you banned yeah and they're not left-wing opinions right right you could come out and say like the most like those videos you could say the most wacky stuff like i'm going to groom children or whatever and you're probably going to be okay you'll be okay as long as you couch it in theory or something first so you sound intelligent and whatever minor attracted persons minor attracted persons yeah those accounts are all still there yeah they're literally groomers like yeah and they're bringing those books like with literal depictions of graphic sex acts into schools now is that real because is that something that they're actually bringing into school or is that something like what is that that's yes it's real and not only are they they're not they're not even just bringing in schools they're doing it in an underhanded way because a lot of people have forgotten this but the state turns out does not have free speech citizens have free speech so it's already this is a long government precedent it's obvious first amendment law the state like the teachers the curriculum can't do they can't just say anything free speech is not a defense available to them if they're saying some thing that's like unprofessional out of their their job description or whatever or bringing pornography into the even if it's fairly soft pornography into the classroom um but the library works differently and so they're actually bringing it in through the library so these aren't like books like the teacher necessarily is reading through in class they're available in the library and they can be you know kids will be told the books are in the library and they do they depict this one it's called genderqueer it i mean this is like crazy i got in trouble on youtube for even saying what's in this book but you can i've seen the picture from the book um it's actually it shows you know a
appears to be some kind of lesbian type relationship or maybe it's non-binary and there's a strap-on dildo on a miner and another one performing oral sex on the strap-on dildo a minor they're children there's a child with a strap-on and another child okay and then this is a book that's in the library now there's another one i saw yesterday and i apologize because i don't know what the title of it is because i only just saw it where it actually shows people going down on each other like cunnilingus and this is in like you want to make a graphic novel of that and publish it like right for adults can is this available online like can i see these images yeah i bet you can let me take my pants off no okay look it up genderqueer terrible joke genderqueer show me show me this on online because this is scandalous what the look up so i don't because if i just type type those words and you end up on the wrong website no genderqueer live and a bad list gender queer schools books that's what i would type in they're gonna um um our school's book why don't you go to duckduckgo stop using google keeps [ __ ] you yeah all right for this one i will google gives you bad info have you ever done the buy side-by-side it's nuts sometimes it's wild it's really wild sometimes mass formation psychosis is a good example of that it is like when they did the thing like right after your show and they were like we're still updating the quality of our search results or something like that for like a day and then it's like not there well what was there was mocking robert malone that's right critiques of robert malone wasn't there like some poor guys video like and he got like totally bombed or whatever because it like prioritized just some random video i do not know kids saying like it doesn't exist or whatever i do not know but i do know that when you looked at mass formation psychosis and duckduckgo you got all the relative information all relative rather information yeah yeah it's it's shocking i do that all the time whenever there's a any kind of uh weird controversial story i immediately go to duckduckgo this is liquid i know this is again it's just another example i'm talking about
if you're just it's curated is this it uh that's the right colors this is all cartoon stuff though it's all it's all it's a graphic novel it's not okay so there's blood all over that kid's legs it's a boy who is period oh the boy had his period and so okay so the boy's on a date with a girl and he has this period what's happening it's just there's it gets i was looking for the pictures like he said and i didn't see them when i quickly scrolled through these are other pictures that are in the book just so these are have you ever shaved your pubic hair they're holding hands nope that's so brave yeah right there brave i thought that's the picture i'm talking about right there right there whoa okay so that is a supposedly a strap-on that looks like a penis like how do we know that oh there you go so that okay that is so insane so this but i can't feel anything this was much hotter when it was only my imagination that's why why can't you feel anything because it's a rubber dick let's try something else of course heart so this is they're literally showing in a a book that's in a library a kid sucking on a library dick that's strapped onto this and the articles when i was googling for it it said they got pulled from the libraries though too and there's this huge fight to get it put back in everywhere and a lot of schools are standing up saying no we're gonna keep this because we have to protect lgbt etc like if you wanted to make this and sell it to people over 18 that makes sense yeah why not of course like why not but if you want to put this in libraries school libraries yeah and so it seems like you're so we wheel back to not just queer theory but all these critical theories right critical race theory whatever and they actually openly say and i mentioned that paper by hannah dyer earlier they openly say that one of the targets that they have is childhood innocence they say childhood innocence is a narrative that's created by people who have privilege and advantage like you're a
rich white guy or whatever so your kids can grow up innocent but if you're a you know queer kid or if you're uh um you know a black kid in the city or whatever you can't grow up innocent you can't grow up racially innocent so they literally say that their target is to unmake childhood innocence so what do they do they expose them to adult sexual themes they expose them in pre-k even to like racism themes and a lot of parents of course are like i don't think that's appropriate and what is the why what's the what are they trying to accomplish with the goal of eliminating childhood innocence uh well depends on who who's doing it those minor attracted persons of course they might have their own if we will minor attractive pedophiles would have their own agenda right groomers they're groomers and if if um there is no childhood innocence then the childhood doesn't have innocence and we can even do away with maybe ag consent laws or we can dut it up so there's that whole sick side of it but from the marxist perspective having studied the history of marxism to the 20th century i'm telling you this guy george lukach in hungary laid this plan out because if you get these kids like you break down their innocence sexually especially uh what you can do is then you're gonna they're gonna go home and they're gonna tell their parents that there's some like lith romantic you know demisexual you know tree tree self gender some you know pronouns tree tree self or something that some and their parents are gonna be like what you know and they're gonna be like mom you just don't understand you know so you separate the the younger generation from the older generations you get them to break away and think that they're old fogies that they're repressive you don't want me to be my true self etc the goal is actually to destabilize the kids identity so that they're groomable that's identity without an essence and queer theory and then they're groomable and you groom them into the stuff and then they look at their parents culture they look at their parents themselves they look at their parents generation they look at the parents religion and they say that doesn't represent me we need something
completely different so it's to say it's to just like in mao's cultural revolution and i mean that much more literally than you might suspect it's to cut the tie between the continuity of culture up to that point including the family and to start a whole new culture afterwards and pol pot called it year zero i guess klaus rob calls it the great reset um but the goal is to separate the new generation from the traditions and views of the old generation for now it was to destroy the so-called four olds old culture old habits old customs and old ways of thinking sergio and and mandarin and um these kids would get like hopped up on this crap became the red guard and like would go into temples and like rip down all the statuary and tear things down and destroy all the old all the old kung fu masters got their asses beat by mobs to get rid of like old chinese culture because it's embarrassing or whatever you know there's all chinese medicine of course and you can say well that stuff is [ __ ] they probably need it but it doesn't matter it was like destroy the old culture and they would go home they eventually got to where they're beating their parents or beating their teachers that were considered revolutionaries or sorry reactionaries instead of being in favor of the chinese cultural revolution and mao had a whole programming used in schools and i see something so similar to that in our schools now that i'm freaking out and what he did was he separated listen to this you'll see it immediately he created ten classes of people five of them were black were labeled black classes they're bad and five of them because communism are red and they're good and the the i can't remember them all off top of my head but like the black classes were like landlord or child of landlord right um uh what else would you have that was yeah landlords um counter revolutionaries bad influences was one of the so like that's us because we're spreading you know more bad influences and so he had these categories uh people who had lots of money basically
people who are capitalists especially landlords and so those people are bad and if you're like the son of one of those people or connected to one of those people they're going to tell you at school you're like the worst kind of person your dad's a landlord your family does this you guys are land holders or rich farmer was one of them rich farmer uh it was one of them and then they give you these red identities well you can be a revolutionary you know you can peasant classes day laborers that's one or two of the red classes because it's communism but then you know you can become a revolutionary you can join the red guard you can take up these you know you can be a good communist and now we'll call you we'll give you like a you know red jacket or whatever a red feather i don't know something and you're like one of the cool kids whereas we're going to constantly tell you how bad you are over here now take out those classes like um you know landowner or whatever and switch it out white straight male thin fit attractive conventionally attractive whatever right there's your black classes so you start telling all these kids for example it's critical race theory stuff or like i have this here race marxism you start showing them you you start telling them that they are part of the racist superstructure of society basically that they're part of the systemic racism problem and so their whole identity generation like your parents are white you didn't do it it's not your fault but you have all this privilege blah blah you have these kids who are like well how can i have a positive identity what do those look like well you could be black you could or some other racial minority you could be queer and all of a sudden you have a pathway a funnel into a positive identity not gay because that's not enough you have to actually be queer like it's not meant to be a stable like oh well i'm a guy who likes guys the end no i was born this way no queer theorists don't get on with it they didn't support gay marriage they're the queer theorists don't like any of that stuff they don't want to normalize anything well what is queer then
queer is an identity without an essence it's a constantly fluid identity it can be whatever you want as long as it's politically active against anything that's considered normal or normative so you can be queer and have a heterosexual relationship i mean if you wanted to yell about things the right way but mostly you're going to have to adopt something one of these like made-up genders sexual sexual orientation yeah they even have romantic orientations like how who you're romantically attracted to instead of sexually attracted because they they're obsessive so we've said that word earlier yeah but you give people a pathway and where do you see the vast majority of these young people transitioning and seeking non-binary and bisexual and whatever else young girls who are the most social status concerned and white man is probably not going to get anything anyway so these young white girls are all becoming some kind of weird gender thing why because they're getting constantly barraged by critical race theory that says white is bad white is complicit in racism you're a racist you can become an ally that's that's a red identity ally racial racial ally but you also have these pathways to where you get social status and it's not enough that you're going to say oh i'm bi or i'm pansexual or i'm demi-sexual or i'm whatever it's not enough to do that you now have to politically be active in that regard or you're not authentically that that's where we heard so many people ayanna presley most famously you know she's i put on twitter the other day diana presley i couldn't remember where she's from so i put you know it's like always like d and then like the state like dmi if it's from like michigan or whatever or d michigan i put d hell because i don't know where she's from um but ayanna presley came out and had this speech during the saint floyd riots and she was like we don't need any more black faces who don't want to be black voices we don't need any more brown faces we don't want to be brown voices what does that mean it means you have to be politically active nicole hannah jones from the new york times the 16-19
project said the same thing there's a difference between being racially black black and politically black so then in your former home state of california or not home state i guess but you know resident state of california larry elder runs for governor was the la times run black face of white supremacy yeah because he's not politically black so you have to be politically active you have to be a revolutionary in that ideology it wasn't even about politically black he wasn't politically left that well that's what it really means right from compton he wasn't he's not a marxist right you only count if you're acting out one of these identity-based marxist political views whether that's you can't just be a black kid you have to be a politically black kid you have to spout critical race theory they say that black voices thing one of the pillars the critical race theory is called a unique voice of color they actually believe that you are morally determined structurally determined they call it but it means morally determined if you happen to be black and you live in a white supremacist society as they define it then your character is shaped so we listen to martin luther king you know that's this week his birthday was just the other day we listened to martin luther king we say you know contents of character not color of skin but according to the critical race theory view your content of your character is determined by the color of your skin so that doesn't work and you have to take on the politics that is being a critical race theory advocate or whatever for your blackness to count where the [ __ ] does all this go this is what's so disturbing about it it seems like it's uprooting civil discourse in this country and between that and whatever is going on politically between the left and the right in terms of like the people that want to make sure that trump never gets in office again and makes sure that everyone who's right wing is demonized and discussed as the worst aspects of society yeah like when leaving one choice and they don't
the only like if you're an intellectual if you're a person went to college if you're a person who is a white collar person like you're not allowed to be anything other than left-wing yeah exactly if you want to be respected and taken seriously like where does this go where i mean you can look at what happened with the cultural revolution because we're playing out the exact same logic and i mean the chinese cultural revolution not the american one that we're in the middle of right now the logic is the same so it goes to a situation in which we don't have a mao zedong character that's going to you know lead this and use the chaos that it creates to to seize an iron grip of communist power what we have instead are people like this klaus schwab introducing xi jinping and saying i you know i you know what does he say i echo everything that you just said or that you said in 2017 i don't want to misquote him but then you have him she talking about how we have the many boats and we're all going to be one boat now right so what you actually end up having is it's not old school communism communism has has evolved it's like we're not going to have like stalin like sending people to siberia with this uh what you're going to have is this new thing where the corporate those esg scores are going to come down ultimately to control people at the level of social credit for themselves like if you want to build a bank if you want to be able to go to the grocery store maybe if you want to go like in australia more than five kilometers from your house you have to have a justified reason that was a whole thing and they're covered like whatever the state of affairs there is that's true like they during their hard lockdown you couldn't be a certain distance away from your house well they can track you on your phone you know if you've got a gps in it if they needed to and especially if we go all the way into like these digital id apps or whatever and so the goal is to install something that they have total social control run by the goons who think that this is
a good idea so that we can become this one it's not communism it's a mixture of communism and fascism into one thing what was the one thing that the that they were recently talking about about labeling people um that are dissenting against government opinions people that are rabble browsers dves yeah domestic violent extremists yeah yeah it's exactly that we can say that in terms of reproduction how do they define it because they were defining it in a very weird way yeah we'd have to pull it up it's really vague but it's weird it's disturbing it's disturbingly because the way they were describing it you could easily say us like people who are podcasters yeah people who uh what was the the terms that they used they used the term i was like wow that's not very clear it's really vague and you know concerning yeah very concerning what did they say they didn't say misinformation they said like someone who it was against the government it was like government authority or something yeah someone who is questioning the government questioning government authority and that's maybe not exact quote something along those lines who released this like what was where was this from it was from like the doj that's crazy see the problem with this kind of [ __ ] folks is they don't even give it back to you this is like when kovit's over and it's endemic and it becomes like the seasonal flu you don't get those rights back no you're gonna have to and i don't mean this like by violence here it is from the fbi's paper i downloaded okay the fbi and the dhs are both charged with preventing terrorist attacks in the united states including those conducted by domestic violent extremists and that three is right here then the gold drives the fbi's mission to proactively lead law enforcement and domestic intelligence efforts to defeat terrorist attacks against u.s citizens and u.s
interests through an integrated strategy to detect penetrate and then how are they describing it this thing here okay here it is the fbi and dhs defined a domestic violent extremist as an individual based and operating primarily within the united states or its territories without direction or inspiration from a foreign terrorist group or other foreign power who seeks to further political or social goals wholly or in part through unlawful acts of force or violence the mere advocacy of political or social positions political activism use of strong rhetoric yeah or generalized philosophic embrace of violent tactics may constitute extremism may not come may not excuse me my microphones and maybe and may be constitutionally protected okay what does that say what does that mean though so um that last part is not as bad as it sounds no it doesn't sound bad at all because this isn't i mean i saw this graphic thing that had very vague words on it but this last part is very clear that they're saying you know you're you may have constitutionally protected free speech and so mere advocacy might not of these things may not be sufficient to qualify you as an extremist well the scary part is the word may of course because there's that's that's a squishy word but may not constitute extremism doesn't make me feel very happy keep going scroll down what does it say disrupt and dismantle criminal dt plots in the fbi and dhs mission to provide strategic analysis of the dve landscape i hate when they use those little acronyms i know it makes it hard to keep up with dt for it's not an acronym right it's an acronym if you say it like i assume that yeah do what's is one where you you know it's an acronym is that what's the one when you say the word uh like nasa right [ __ ] this is a different word god damn it i [ __ ] hate that we'll have to look that up too okay
uh the dt for the fbi's purpose uh is referenced in the u.s code as defined as activities involving acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws the united states or any other state or any state appearing to be intended to intimidate or coerce civilian population here's one influence the policy of government by intimidation coercion or affect con conduct of government by mass destruction assassination or kidnapping and occurring primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the united states well that makes sense yeah that all makes sense except that's like and that what they did with the governor of michigan wasn't they kidnapped well that's the thing yeah well that was i was going to bring that up to you about um january 6th like what do you think they were trying to do and why would they why were they trying to do that if who are they that you're the fbi okay so if the fbi is involved with feds if they are involved and that's why that woman was not able to answer those questions to ted cruz who said i can't answer that i can't answer that and things that you should be able to answer like were you involved in citing violence yeah were you involved in violent activities yeah so what do you think they were trying to do and why were they trying to do that do you think it's because it's it's no secret that donald trump had like a terrible relationship with the intelligence community right he disparaged them dismissed them called them incompetent fired comey the whole deal right and they were out to get him sure supposedly right do you think that what they were trying to do by inciting like that epps guys and we need to go in there i might get arrested for saying this yeah we need to go into the capitol and everybody's like who's this [ __ ] fan yeah is after you guys notice that i saw this news came out that he is going to be doing an interview with the fbi to transcribe what he was doing there that day i guess informally
he met informally jamie no he did already he's going to meet formally look at this figure the center of pro-trump january 6 theories to speak with select committee on friday ray epps met informally with the panel in november and told them he had no relationship with the fbi no is it the nsa he said whatever the [ __ ] he's with he's with somebody or he's a nut it could be he's a nut but if he was a nut they would have arrested him yeah you think i think so because they arrested normal people well he didn't go in though did he go in i don't think so no i think they're trying to arrest people that didn't go in too i think they got it out for alex jones yeah they're trying to and alex jones is telling people don't go inside don't go in there yeah don't let them talk into it yeah like there's video mr falls flag right on a horn telling people don't go inside there of course but then when the when the cops opened up the gates yeah and let people in like in that word so what do you think they were trying to accomplish this is my point so they tell you so they're trying of course they turn into like a holiday or something weird right so they're trying to it's really important to them that this was a very significant event right and what are they doing with it well they immediately literally like the next day which is oddly fast you know had legislation that they wanted to put to control domestic extremists then they have this extremism stand down that they do throughout the military all year last year where they're they're and you know they're talking to them about white supremacy and they're talking about all this stuff they put up a green zone around the capitol yeah yeah they did and so then and i don't know if you saw this the new york times on january 1st so first of all there's all this like kind of like patriot act 2.0 looking [ __ ] coming out of this to label people who are will say at least further to the right as potential domestic terror threats or whatever to our democracy which is its own thing um but on january 1st
the new york times published an article titled every day is january 6th now is that not like the stupidest thing you've ever heard but i just told you about the essay from 1965 called repressive tolerance so what does this mean if every day is january 6 we always have to be aware that there's this one side that supported trump obviously one of the things they wanted out of it though speaking of trump they wanted to make sure that trump would never be able to hold office again how do we know that because they kick that political football every chance they get they try to use something to justify that he can never hold office again right so only their dudes can hold office we got you and then this article though is the idea of repressive tolerance it is every day is january 6th and what did marcus say the clear and present danger is the constant state of our society it's the normal state of affairs what does that justify repression of movements from the right intolerance of movements from the left it's exactly what they were they what they were if they were the if the fbi constructed the bulk of the bad stuff that went down on j6 they were trying to construct their excuse to have a political biasing of the playing field that represses rightward and opens the gate leftward even further and so and and to add like department of justice fbi et cetera teeth to you know this otherwise kind of cultural movement so it's the kind of again having studied the chinese cultural revolution it's the kind of thing that i start to get really nervous about the idea that if you read maui's always talking about counter-revolutionaries he's always talking about conservatives and rightists um and that those people have to be suppressed they have to be stopped they're a constant threat to the people's movement or to the revolution or whatever it is that however rephrase it is often the people's movement is how he phrases it and you see this again same kind of
maoist and marxist maneuver to consolidate and lock up power in the i don't even want to say the democrats to be honest with you it's not democrats it's bigger than the democrats it's in the what often got referred to either as the deep state or the swamp or you know whatever this kind of political class that wants to hold itself up above everybody else and make no mistake there are lots of republicans involved as well the democrats are virtually completely beholden to this ideology at this point but there's a lot of republicans who are you know in on the in on the show as well uh that say the right thing sometimes that are mostly ineffectual and so there's this thing that some people call it i call it on twitter the regime with a capital r that wants to create conditions under which it can persecute or at least intimidate its political enemies including with this department of justice letter it's not connected to january 6 for parents uh showing up to school boards pissed off that there's books in the school library which we already saw what's in those books in the school library they want to create the ability to repressively to repress those people so they can create the conditions of repressive tolerance which is a it's basically like taking the whole political football field and tilting it to the left so everything naturally runs that way and it's really hard to go rightward on anything so that's i mean i seriously think that that's what the point was that's why you have guys like apps whatever he's doing like telling guys make this worse than it is and we're going to use it i remember on january 6 20 was it 21 i guess i was tweeting i was like you do not know what's happening at the capitol and i wasn't doing some like false fly conspiracy thing i was like you just don't have enough information like stop jumping to conclusions like
hold up wait and like it's just media spin i wasn't doing something like you know alex jones false flag thing i was like tweeting that and i'm watching how people are reacting and if you follow the thread where i have that i even say you know this is like the biggest gift in the world to the potential regime that wants to clamp down on its enemies it wants to censor people who might be encouraging insurrection in the future who might be giving people information that makes them you know doubt the authority of the cdc or the government or you know whatever it happens to be or the school board or the department of education or whoever and it just makes it that much easier for whatever agendas that they might have which clearly they have some build back better is the name of one of the agendas that they're pushing it makes it that much easier for them to try to slide that stuff through if you can't criticize it to whatever whatever reason they have like okay so with kovid we had a lot of different paths so this thing gets out in the world let's take the most dumb ass naive view like oh it just escaped no bad actors it was a natural thing they were studying like totally stupid and naive it comes out it's in the world at some point say beginning of 2020 we have a million different paths we can follow we can start sending everybody vitamin d and ivermectin like mexico just did right like they're sending people packets of this this is if you get sick this is what you do there are lots of different paths we could have taken we could have done a lot of different instead we all locked down we all did these other things and in fact we have this book come out in june by klaus saying that we're doing the great reset using covet 19 as the pretext who did he write that book for probably i mean it's really badly written so i'm assuming it's for his little davos like club members because it's really it's is it published with a legitimate publisher or is it self-published that's a good question i don't know i read the book but i didn't i didn't look at that page that's a good question um
it's a kind of a joke of a book it's just like a bunch of like corporate jargon words even i'm like trained to see jar see through jargon and it's like it's just a bunch of corporate gobbledygook so when it comes to false flags and it comes to some orchestrated uh agent provocateur tactics like when it was when governor whitmer when they were planning to kidnap her how many different fbi agents were involved in that it was like like six or something right something crazy yeah more than half it was more than half of them yeah in the kidnap that's like that funny spider-man meme yeah was like well you saw looking at each other you remember they had the thing of the over the summer they had something to do like they're supposed to be this conservative thing about the j6 like free the prisoners or something and like nobody showed up and then like there's that famous picture of the feds all standing there and they're like sunglasses and whatever and it's like you read the story of what happened there and the only person who got arrested at that event whatever it was was a fed by another fed and it's like oh my god you guys it's funny it's funny but it's like what are they trying to do and why is it allowed this is what kennedy talked about when he talked about like secret societies yeah well it's allowed because there's no accountability and anybody who calls for accountability can be labeled under like with a serious call for it can be labeled labeled under somebody who's a threat to democracy they can be labeled under somebody who's you know a potential insurrectionist or instigating insurrection or defending officers that are involved in this what do you think they think they're doing i think the majority of them think they're just doing their job right but do they do they know what the end game is like what do they think their job is i mean if you're pretending i don't know you do that i mean if you're pretending to be an insurrectionist and you're you know plotting some you know kidnapping of a governor or whatever you're trying to do like what the [ __ ] so there is an answer to that and you know
what it is is they think that some dude say in whatever michigan is this lunatic who wants to kidnap the governor but he's not going to act until he gets kind of like ginned up right and so they want to just kind of a be in the vicinity so that if something goes down they can interact or intervene immediately and b like give him that little extra push over the edge right make them active yeah so but like the law enforcement should not be doing that they should that shouldn't be encouraging crime yeah and so why on earth i mean maybe they just think that they're like hot [ __ ] or something i don't know is that like a firefighter starting fires thing it could be i know a dude who did that well i didn't know him he was a guy in my town where i grew up in his little kid like there was literally a crazy guy that did that there it's it's more common than it should be but it does happen and this has happened before in terms of like uh people that were supposedly informants people that were working with the fbi that wound up doing something like the boston bombers yeah weren't the boston bombers some they were informants yeah something like that and then who's on the scene i don't know if you ever saw this the one that they they interviewed the medical professional in boston yes lyanna nguyen yes who's like i call her minnie mouse well mouse yeah and she was uh in front of a green screen wasn't she something like that and she said so it's like super fake she's like and then it's like camera turn on and her face turns on and then she says this thing and it's like oh yeah there was way less carnage and damage than we were expecting it's like then you were expecting like what are you talking about but but also if you do hear a bomb went off you expect yeah yeah yeah there's there's ambiguity there she's an odd duck she's weird well it's what's weird too is that she's the one who's now the message of cnn that mass don't work like she's now cloth masks are nothing more than facial decorations and everyone's like wait what yeah the [ __ ]
did she just say well you know what they're not gonna stop omicron or delta like yeah ps if they're facial decorations you know what they are what speech which means the first amendment they can't compel you to wear a facial decoration have you ever seen the video uh where they're discussing this this is pre-pandemic i'm going to send this to you jamie because it's pretty interesting they were discussing the um the mask thing that was going on during the uh 1918 pandemic and they were talking about the ineffectiveness of mass it's really kind of wild when you when you watch it because it's it's one of those things where you see it you're like holy [ __ ] this is kind of i mean it's essentially the same thing that we're dealing with now but this was you know a hundred [ __ ] years ago let me try to find it here somebody sent it to me it's gonna take a few minutes i got by the way while you look i got dinged off of uh facebook or something at one point all i did was i took a video of fauchi saying don't wear a mask from the very beginning of the pandemic and i put it on there and all the only words were fouchy and then whatever month it was like march 2020 or april 2020. that was the only thing i said with it and they they locked me out for and put a strike on my account for um sharing misinformation it was literally just a video of fouchy saying it and that just put the time like i was just saying this is what the man said at the time so i had that very same uh video now well i put it up on was it like instagram minutes or something yeah well it's like the facial mask they're not gonna work you get as much some me gonna yeah yeah is there not enough to stop a virus something about nanometers yeah he's uh he's an odd cat you know i'm in the middle of this thing that's talking about his response to the aids epidemic yeah right the way he handled that which is very similar in the fact that they suppressed um
alternative treatments and early treatment options in favor of azt and they stopped all other studies in favor of azt and it turns out that avt azt was actually killing people even quicker and that's the parallel to remdi severe or whatever it's called yeah it's like super shady yeah i'm trying to find this [ __ ] there's so i get so many goddamn messages i'm not gonna find it um let's see if you can find it jamie see we can find a video of them discussing masks in uh 1918 sorry this is very boring to everybody but i think it's kind of important here's the search if you want to i can take my pants off sorry what did you do i searched for it i don't know what it looks like there's a black invite video maybe that of them talking about it yeah let's try that variety try that april 3rd 2020 is the date on that yeah i don't know it looks like an article is there a video no video um [ __ ] i hate when i don't save things yeah i know i have too many i have too many dude it's like i'll find it i'll find it later yeah so yeah the thing is though is like you are right this was all kind of played out they knew you know they have seen the papers that pre before covid broke out that they knew that masks were at best very limited utility but is limited utility better than nothing i mean this is the my my perspective on is like if it just stops a little bit of transmission if it stops a little bit the viral load of people get less sick than they would have gotten if people were just openly breathing and coughing all over each other is that better maybe because here's the thing and this is i'm so i'm actually really glad you said this because i actually wanted to bring this up if we got a chance the problem we're seeing with so much of
this especially with the masks and kids is this collapsing of everything to one damn variable transmission that's the only variable that counts now like we don't have to we don't have to ask questions of like well what's it doing to like kids ability to speak and understand language what is it doing to their like rates of pneumonia from breathing back in or facial like acne or you know eye infections from breathing their own mouth bacteria back onto their face and being trapped in that what's it doing like the what is it how many what some absurd number of billions of masks floating in the ocean yes right there's a million other things going on and if we just pay attention to one single variable does it stop transmission right we're missing like it's like it's not even like you miss the forest for the tree it's like you're you're looking at like a freaking bit of moss on the bark and not even knowing what's going on there you can't collapse a very you know multi-dimensional problem that has lots of trade-offs a lot there are billions of masks floating in the ocean is a [ __ ] problem it is and it's funny because you know they're getting if we go back to the esg thing they're getting points on their g for good governance by forcing people to wear the masks but they should be losing points in the environmental category right but they're not because it's all like stakeholder [ __ ] they want to prioritize covet as more important just like all of a sudden covet didn't matter when black lives matter became more important that's s score goes up and you can see that this is that's where you've got to worry about this small number of people who are largely unaccountable being able to make these kinds of decisions for people because they can make it arbitrary in fact it is arbitrary and in fact it's usually not only arbitrary but political or politicized uh as we're seeing kind of tie a lot of the things we've been talking about together but that collapsing of one of everything to one variable there's a million things going on with kids and childhood development and
everything tran is it worth wearing everybody wearing masks at the the cost the environmental outlay the side effects of wearing masks everybody's like oh you can't breathe in hypoxia like there is a bit of like suck it up buttercup to that right but there's not suck it up buttercup to like you're breathing back in your gross mouth stuff and getting pneumonia if you're say six years old right and like everybody's double a six-year-old knows how that works they're like little snot machines yeah i mean that's like a running commentary throughout all of comedy of parents comedy for all of history is that they generate snot and they're breathing that back in they're touching their face all the time because they got the mask on it's uncomfortable they're not apparently all this stuff's coming out they're not learning to speak there's so many other variables have to be considered and we see that in all of these things okay i found it sorry no it's cool here um i gotta i'm gonna send it to you jamie it's on youtube sorry about that no i filled the space you did you did it very well here i'll see it i've heard i got a radio voice you do have a radio voice that should be on radio but then they would just suppress you uh i just texted you jamie yeah so you know that's the question is it worth it but you ca if you're only looking at one thing you don't know if it's worth it right you're just like oh it reduces this one thing that's bad there's like a million things that are bad but it did in some ways calm people that everyone around you that has mass on is doing the right thing mass formation psychosis but maybe but also like for folks let's let's listen to this 50 minute video dude that's like an hour is it really yeah it's like a whole special on pbs about spanish flu oh but i think i sent i thought wasn't it time stamped hold on a second oh that's the link to the full documentary i'm sorry that was not a good flu
yeah i'm sorry jimmy here i'll send you a link to the oh that's what it is because someone sent me a video save the camera roll okay here sorry here's the actual video i'll text it to you right now sorry so here's i sent it to you you should get it to any second now yeah i legit think that like we've spent too much time caring about what makes lots of other people feel better and we've put ourselves in a bad position as a result so i don't personally there's some of that for sure i mean the suck it up buttercup thing you know i there's there's some of that but okay let's play this real quick the epidemic was now a national crisis [Music] something had to be done in many places officials rushed through laws requiring people to wear masks in public all of america it seemed put on masks at last many thought they were safe [Music] we're seeing these images didn't help they were thin and porous no serious restraint to tiny microbes it was like trying to keep out dust with chicken wire so this was obviously made before what happened there something else i sent you oh it's another text i say um the the video this documentary was made obviously before the pandemic right you wouldn't make that video now no one no one would put that in a documentary they'd be like edit that out yeah it'd be totally considered misinformation right because even though it's factual i'm sure you've seen that doctor who blows vape smoke my famous or favorite one that i've seen i have seen the smoke one my favorite one that i've seen was a dude that put on like five of them and he went out in his like ass cold with snow everywhere and you know your breath and it's just like clouds of it all around his head as he breathes coming through the mask going out the sides yeah and it's like five of them yeah like five masks he puts on one in breeds and it's everywhere he puts on another one and it just like kind of gets worse the more he probably if you can breathe you breathe out if you breathe in you
breathe out if you breathe out air is coming out and then those tiny little aerosol parts yeah yeah they're going to go out with it i just it's just like how much of it is being captured by the mask and is it is it enough where it justifies it the apparent answer is mostly probably not but uh but there have been studies supposedly suppose like they're always talking about studies have shown that mass and social distancing work i think social distancing works if you're like 50 feet apart yeah i think that works but i mean the six foot thing really like you and i right now are about what is this how wide is this about five five so okay so this is six feet yeah would you be comfortable with someone that [ __ ] the plague and they were this close to you breathing yeah crazy in a closed room yeah like that's crazy absolutely not the fact that we were told like have you ever seen that uh guy in germany that walks around with these protests with a pole that's a six foot pole make sure that people are apart from each other by six feet it's measuring so lame it's like i keep wanting to like i want to see somebody take it like a bo staff and just like go full jackie chan on the guy or whatever it's just well it's one of the things where people are looking for something to comfort them and the mask in some ways comforts people see i would put it on i put it on in the beginning of the pandemic gladly because whether it works or not i was like at least people know you're not an [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah i got that i did the same thing i kind of looked back at it and kind of wish i didn't now i think we needed a little bit more reasonable [ __ ] as opposed to unreasonable [ __ ] like there's too many people were falling in line you would just be exactly attacked well i mean i was in tennessee so yeah not so much if i'd been in la hanging out with you we might have a different story because like tennessee by like april may we were just like yeah screw this yeah and then their governor came on tv's like we recommend you wear masks and we're like recommend huh okay you know we're done see england today dropped out they dropped it yeah boris got rid of it all because he knows he's politically screwed yeah now well he got
caught partying while he's locking everybody down and 10 downing and all this stuff he's been real weird ever since all that and where was he partying in 10 downing street like during the height of the lockdown like last christmas not last year but the year before like christmas mayor of san francisco she got busted and then also she's hard on crime now now right she's like we got to do something about this crime like what what are you saying all of a sudden you locked the [ __ ] city down responsible for a lot of that [ __ ] the tolerance of that [ __ ] see i worry though not only like we talk about mass formation psychosis or whatever but i worry even about just the idea of giving somebody the idea that they're safe when they're not if safety is the thing you're appealing to right because that's one point i mean you know martial arts we all have the the old thing like you teach somebody akata and then they think they know how to fight and then they're more confident so they go and get their ass beat right and that's you know it's a joke if it's some dude you teach him like his yellow belt and he goes and gets beat up like haha but because we're guys and we don't care about guys getting beat up and it's funny like dude you tried to do a jump kick like really but um when it's like women's self-defense right and you teach her just enough to get confident enough to get get her ass beat like that's not good yeah right and so there that's it's part of the it's literally part of the dunning-kruger effect where you know you get overconfident and how good you are and then you make bad decisions or whatever that's uh you know i used to teach martial arts and i went to one of those uh women's self-defense courses where they would um they put someone in a giant foam outfit yeah red man suit yeah and then the the guy would like try to attack a woman and then the woman would say no and she'd like punch him in the face and no and kick him in the nuts and no yeah and everybody's like yeah yeah yeah i'm sitting there going man you are you're setting these people up to get really [ __ ] hurt because a woman that's like especially a tiny
woman yeah that i mean some women who [ __ ] you up that can punch really hard true story it's real some women can knock you the [ __ ] out but a lot of them can't right and there's nothing you're gonna be able to do they have like little tiny hands there's not a damn thing you're gonna be able to do hold up joe are you one of those extremists that believes that men and women are not the same that's what i do man woman boy girl we're all the same you know where i saw that we're on a mural in chinese in beijing oh jesus well it's not a fight not in a fight it turns out those those bell curves of upper body strength don't overlap very much there's a hilarious article um that was in um might have been like pink news or one of those things about michael phelps and michael phelps unironically saying that it's not fair if this penn state transgender woman competes against that michael phelps ironically says it's not an even playing field like unironically rather because it's not even playing field because he's gifted like that's the idea it's like they're making a parallel between michael phelps being physically gifted because he is physically gifted a bit of a yeah kind of a physical freak yeah but you know so lebron james yeah right exactly also are basically in any sport at this point yeah hyper athletes yeah but the you can't compare that to a transgender woman competing against females that's like i saw people by 38 seconds yeah it was like the entire length of the pool or something like something so absurd it's so absurd did you see the that she got beat by another transgender i did i laughed in my heart it's happening what is this well then i also it's like that you know you laugh and then you cry well women should be crying exactly because in sports are getting destroyed and this is transgender women well that's because because the social constructivism doesn't have any breaks is the problem it turns out all that gender construct [ __ ] it doesn't have any breaks here says none of thomas's teammates
have spoken on the record about their opinion on the matter of course they don't want to get attacked though some have chosen to do some anonymously to voice their concern she compares herself to jackie robinson she said this is like the jackie robinson of transports one of thomas's teammates told the washington examiner last week she laughs about it and mocks the situation instead of caring or showing that she cares about what she's doing or what she's doing to her teammates she's not sympathetic or empathetic at all because she's acting like a guy yeah and a narcissistic guy at that yeah can you imagine comparing yourself to jackie robinson scroll up though so you can see the uh headline because it's kind of crazy michael felt no this is um that's that's great that he said that because it there it does need to be a level playing field a biological female should be competing against biological females and you are going to have outliers yeah of course when you have biological females you're going to have like super athletes that are going to dominate the michael jordans of female athletes but of course that is not um what i was talking about what i was talking about was um i'll find it here the um what they were saying is that he's silly for saying that yeah of course they are they he yeah he doesn't understand you know anything or whatever um yeah it's in pink news oh geez it says here i'll send you this jamie you can see it you got it i mean here i found i just sent you the image of it it's just like there's a difference kids there's a difference there's a big difference between an outlier who's also biologically male and then and a person who is in a completely different category there's a reason why we separate male sports versus female sports even in like even just within each then we separate by weight and we separate by in some sports depending on like the top top but you know by years of experience you know used to sport fight some there's brown belt class black yeah yeah and certainly weight classes yeah and certainly weight
classes because it turns out it matters oh [ __ ] man it matters a lot yeah whenever he says no technique matters okay well how about you get a gordon ryan who's also giant and great technique yeah exactly yeah here here it is kind of i can't make it look better oh sorry michael forbes yeah like without a hint of irony michael phelps says sports should be even playing field without a hint of irony yeah so they're making fun of him like he's so silly he's so silly he's so dumb embrace the future yeah and then probably everyone's a fed yeah right they're all fed swimming transgender feds it's like these guys that are the ones that are showing up at that rally and then there was only feds showing up wearing glasses like do they think like what what did i sign up for or do they just do their job you know the ones that i wondered about were the ones who were like the fake tiki torch guys outside of yunkan's bus in virginia i was like what's got parody though wasn't that a joke i don't think so i don't know i think not i thought they were like seriously trying to you know stage some some [ __ ] oh i thought that that was it was like people on the other guy's campaign or like were like tied to it like people this is again what i was talking about earlier with the internet like sleuthing out within 15 minutes it's like oh here's this chicks you know facebook page here who's who she is oh she works for this blah blah democrat this and that and it's like holy crap right and could you imagine standing there dressed like with the button-down white shirt holding a trump hat and holding the tiki torch like just a putts knowing you're a putts lincoln project says it's behind the group with tiki torches by yonk and campaign buster oh yeah the lincoln project through themselves what were they what they said they did they threw themselves under the bus probably to protect the campaign in my opinion uh because their name's already mud like they got all that pedophile stuff going on with them what oh yeah the lincoln project has all kinds of like they they have their own like pedo scandal around them 99 sure i didn't know that yeah it's i've not heard that at all yeah it's not good we'd have to look it up but they
got in a they got a hell of a lot of trouble for it so there was someone on the campaign or the lincoln project that was involved in this with the tiki torch thing or no the pedophile stuff yeah i think it's one of the guys that was like near the top was like doing some weird crap like we'd have to look it up i don't want to get the details wrong but i i have a pretty decent memory here it goes lincoln project founders try to deny the new co-founder who sexually harassed boys oh great oh great how about that how about that there's so what there's a lot of that going on in the swamp how many [ __ ] creeps there are out there dude i know you know it's it's yeah it's it's freaking crazy i mean how many are there like that that's the thing that leads people to think that like pizzagate is real exactly that's exactly right right that's exactly because there's so many of these like breadcrumbs right and it's so easy to like follow follow follow and then the next thing you know you're in some ditch right right like that you're you're showing up to a pizza place with a with a rifle right right to save the kids who aren't there and it's like this this is i mean so many things we talked about today all come back to that it's like this is why you know why once you guys do this really crazy thing like come clean like just start telling us some truth you know instead and get your credibility back and that's what's going to do that you mean journalists is that what we're saying well i mean yeah journalists like they're even doing it like cnn and the cdc both are all of a sudden like you know well there were a lot of deaths with kovid that weren't deaths isn't that wild when you hear that like what are you saying yeah right like when fauci's talking about children there's a lot of children who are in the hospital with kovid yeah not because of coach all of a sudden yeah well i mean if we were if we're going to be we're going to stick in fed land we're going to talk about this concept called a limited hangout do you know what a limited hangout is
you explained to me last night yeah watergate watergate so a limited hangout is like instead of letting it all hang out you're going to a limited amount of hanging it out so you're going to tell some of the truth to regain your credibility but then you're going to retain the key bad stuff and not give those details away and so all of a sudden you know basically their narrative has what we're watching right now is a very exciting time weird time but exciting time to be alive we're watching the narrative collapse right and so they're trying to regain their credibility because they cnn's viewership is in the toilet they've lost 90 percent yeah yeah 90 percent of their viewers do you know how insane that is and they like own the airports and stuff like anymore no is that no it's fox or something now no i think i don't know if they're even doing news of the airport actually yeah cartoons yeah i have no idea yeah right everybody should be happy yeah like that's cnn such so doom and gloom that's the last thing you want to see before you get on a [ __ ] metal tube that flies through the air that was the other thing we talked about last night was the the guy who came up with the word microaggression yes so i looked this dude up chester pierce says his name okay so chester pierce came up with microaggressions 1970. and what i told you was that he was somehow involved with mkl trump yeah which is exciting right turns out he also was one of the chief consultants i looked him up and read about this morning for sesame street when it started so do you know the story where um what's his name jolly uh mike yeah jolly west yeah jolly west um you were the elephant with the lsd and the elephant yes so chester pierce was part of the elephant thing and then explained the story okay so they have this elephant tusca or something like that was an elephant's name like literally i read this this morning and they were trying to figure out something about how lsd does things and controllability and all this and some reason they're really interested in elephants i don't know what it is they have no idea what dose lsd to give an elephant so they shoot it with a dart that has like you know just
the human dose like scaled up some you know lsd people get like some number of milligrams like maybe hundreds of milligrams of of lsd into the elephant's ass and it goes nuts it's like rampaging around and laying on his side and his tongue turns blue and it's like seizures and they try to give it like antipsychotics and the elephant dies right not that long later and then they find out it turns out the elephants are super super super sensitive to lsd and so they killed this elephant like screwing around with it and that's part of like so jolly west was like the mk ultra guy doing all the mind control well charles pierce was like this guy and he was kind of in charge of i don't know what his deal with elephants was but he was in charge of this thing that was a like coalition of black psychiatrists and he was a harvard psychiatry guy but he was tied up with west jolly west and he talked about how you know the black man like really loves jolly west because all this he had all these things of jelly was he did the elephant thing with jolly west i don't know how involved in mkl tree was but he was very interested in the way that tv in particular uh brainwashes black kids to feel inferior that was like a huge thing for him and so he wanted to try to combat that and as far as i can tell the sesame street stuff's not all that nefarious but it's a little weird that snuffleoffice is on there now that they killed an elephant and then he makes you know sesame street with a woolly mammoth or whatever is one of the characters but a little weird but this guy who was literally like a black radical in the 60s who was also a harvard psychiatrist and was tied up with all this like police and fbi and and like cia garbage with lsd and all the experiments he was doing and he was a long time friend and collaborated with west jolly west this guy is also the guy who names microaggressions which is this weird little idea that if you get like if i say like hey where are you from and you happen to be from like
mexico or something that you have to be insulted nowhere right right yesterday yesterday it turns out was tuesday and i went like we're in austin so i got tacos on taco tuesday that's a microaggression right can you believe i did that tacos on taco tuesday is a microaggression yeah because that's like stealing mexican culture of tacos what if you buy them from mexicans well that might be okay i don't know no that's probably no i have no idea it's all made up so this concept though comes from this guy who also is like a consultant for sesame street and wants to use like psychological techniques to like do diversity on tv to it looks like good reasons like i'm not even going to crap on sesame street i'm not going to say that sesame street was a cia plot to like tear america awards nothing like that but this guy is an interesting character but he's the guy who comes up with microaggressions and he worked on mk ultra so it's like uh how did he define microaggressions so small slights that over time build up like if you hear like a little thing about you know or kind of racially tinged comment or whatever it doesn't really bug you you can brush it off but if you hear them again and again and again and again and again so it was a it's a microaggression like if you told an asian like you're sure you sure are good at math yes that's what you want that would definitely be one playing on a stereotype yeah yeah or even saying long time no see because it's a director what about if you take a black guy's a big dick well you know he's probably not going to complain everybody's unless he doesn't have a big dick that's like one of those stereotypes of people like yeah we like that one yeah do all the positive stereotypes like right maybe the ones with the small dicks are going to be mad like why you always assume right like and those guys have got like some little man syndrome going on like probably extra right imagine their expectations yeah it did right yeah that's just a patriarchy or something yeah it's it's it's definitely something patriotic something's cisgender something has had some something some ism is going on yeah
there's a lot of wrongs a lot of wrongs a lot of wrongs domestic violent extremists let me ask you this because this is uh i mean i know you think about this probably more than anybody with your understanding of critical theory and your analysis of what's happening where does this all go like do you think we can pull out of this yeah are we gonna do you do i do i do but we actually have to uh kind of culturally wake the [ __ ] up like we have to realize that it's not just guaranteed here right it's not just you know the old saying is you know people think it couldn't happen here nobody could and it turns out that the critical theories as it happens are stupid they're like transparently dumb everybody reads about you know critical race they're like it's so complicated can't understand it i'm telling you it's as broad as a great lake but like an inch deep there's it actually i put this it's the first thing it's book isn't real by the way the book is but this copy's not uh but i do have it's not real well i don't have it typeset fully yet so what's going on in that book the first chapter over and over and over again come on no really because i haven't finished the type setting yet i have to do it's in stages it comes out like in the 15th of february that's like a mock book it's a mock book so that i could show that i have a book but i'm painfully honest so i can't like pretend that's good but no that's a good quality this really is the first chapter though the first thing i have is defining critical race theory chapter one and it's a critical race theory noun calling everything one wants to control racist until you control it that's all it comes down to calling everything racist sexist or whatever until you control it but let me be the the opposite of this let me because the thing that people argue against is that what people are trying to do by denying critical race theory they're denying the conversation about the wrongs of the past and they want to pretend that nothing happened they want to pretend that red line laws didn't happen jim crow didn't happen slavery didn't happen or if it did it's not worth discussing today because what's what's going on today we're on an
even playing field we had a black president and everything's fine and they're saying no that's not the case what critical race theory is to them is discussing the wrongs of the past that's what they want you to believe but what it is is it's discussing the wrongs of the past in a particular way and what is wrong with the way that they're discussing it their assumption fundamentally is that discussing it in a marxist way is what's the problem in the marxist view there's a system that the entire society operates under a system that dictates how the society operates it's in fact that you have the base for marx let me just do a little marxism for you you've got the base the productive workers right the proletariat they make all the stuff and so they're the rightful inheritors to society because they make all the stuff then you have these other people like lawyers and priests and governors and you know businessmen like all these people and they don't produce anything real they don't actually make stuff and they are in what mark's called the superstructure of society which is what orders how society actually operates and it turns out that that thing the superstructure produces a bunch of justifications for why it should exist and not be overthrown like no people need religion so they need somebody who understands god so we need a minister so i should have a job as a priest and you should come to church and tithe to me and pay me or people need their you know the law needs to be worked out so we need lawyers who are going to be able to help people settle disputes and keep it within the realm of the law and we need law in the first place so now we need lawyers so there's these claims about why those jobs should exist and then why people like them should have them well i went to law school and worked really hard so my merit got me there i worked so hard and what the marxists say is it's all fake it's all a mythology created by the people in power to keep their power okay and the belief is that until that is completely overthrown in revolution and the people on the bottom seize power through a period of dictatorship literally he called it the dictatorship
of the proletariat that the system doesn't change so all these in critical race theory the ideology is white supremacy and the country was founded in white supremacy so it doesn't matter that thomas jefferson wrote minor created equals he held slaves and therefore he didn't believe it even if you but if of course you read thomas jefferson you see him struggling with this like he doesn't know what to do about it and he laments kicking it down the the generations to some later time they landed on lincoln but no he created a system rooted in white supremacy that's for white benefit etc and of course that is in the 18th century right and for the marxist that never changes all the thing on top that ideology the whiteness that you have access to all the white supremacists ever do is figure out how to hide the fact that they're justifying their illegitimate position better so you need a critical theory they can see it's critical so it can see through those lies it understands that there's a structural nature to society that's produced by the interaction of the lower and the upper in in what's called dialectical opposition and so it generates this structure of society this is literally a description of the theory in marxism called structuralism and that structure determines how society goes that's called structural determinism literally and so with critical race theory that they want to bring up the past what they want to do is invoke and say nothing has changed except that the the people who benefit from white supremacy have figured out ways to hide it better by say letting some racial minorities succeed or by desegregating schools that was derrick bell first critical race theorist formally speaking his big thing was that desegregating schools was actually white people trying to protect american interests against communists at the expense of black people who are now going to have to go to integrated schools where they're going to suffer racism and so on it's very pessimistic and cynical analysis but nothing not abolition of slavery through the civil war and all that blood and everything which was in a sense a revolution
not the civil rights movement none of that actually changed racism except in how it manifests the ideology from the white supremacists just took a different form and in fact there's a book i can't remember the title of book race class and nation race nation class something like this it's a french marxist book i was reading a couple weeks ago they actually say that right they say explicitly that racism has gotten worse as it's gone out of the biological and out of the institutional and into the culture where it's super diffuse and you can't find it it's all hidden so like it's gotten worse because it's gotten better yes exactly they say it hasn't gotten better it's exactly the same but it's more intense and it's invisible except the people like them who have the special goggles they can see it so it's not whether or not we want to have conversations about the past it's how those conversations are going to proceed and as we have dealt with some certain very intolerant people are going to say that every other possible way to discuss the past and the present of this country is racist only critical race theory is anti-racist everything else is racist that's literally their model right and so it's not about whether we're going to discuss yeah there are some [ __ ] who don't want to talk about it who don't want to look at it i very rarely hear from messages like that i always hear and talk about our history warts and all like people i think there's a lot to learn from all of that so we don't do that [ __ ] again right and so no it's a question of how we're going to do it and with this intolerant ideology that sees only one way to do it but what was the definition i just read to you that i give the first thing in my my new book is that critical race theory is calling everything you want to control racist until you control it so now you want to have a conversation about race every version except theirs is racist because they want to control the conversation about race and that's the problem it's not whether or not we're going to have these conversations it's not that there were issues and that there are probably things there are definitely things that
still hang over from those issues redlining et cetera like the the wealth gap is significant what happened following the civil rights with the great society and the decimation of the black family that's freaking real it has serious consequences today in terms of all the things you're talking about it's all real right but it's how that conversation has to proceed and if they're going to say every single way but our way is racist all they're trying to do is use that label racist to control the conversation put it on their terms but their terms are this crackpot marxist thing that it keeps getting worse until when until they're totally in power i feel like there's also an aspect to it where social media has illuminated these pathways for people to take where they can become famous and prominent by addressing these concerns that people have about racism and calling everyone racist and and deciding that things are and looking at things in the most uncharitable light yeah because they then get attention from that and then these arguments and these discussions and they make youtube videos or they're on television shows or whatever they're doing and then it becomes their their avenue to success by calling everything racist yeah that's right and so it creates really bad incentives right those incentives are totally perverse and what you'll notice by the way what you just pointed out is yeah these people who are actually like marxist types can manipulate that no grifter city do you know how easy it becomes to become or it is to become a race grifter in those conditions all you have to do is say you have these feelings and nobody can question your feelings and you call like the idea that master bedrooms sounds like slave quarters versus master it turns out that's not it that was from sears in like 1929. how funny was it when that one dude said that so many white people are pretending that they're people of color in order to get into universities yeah he torpedoed himself a bit there didn't he explain that yeah so ibrahim kendy is like the one of the patron saints of this stuff he wrote two really
kind of influential books one is stamped from the beginning which is what i was just saying america was stamped from the beginning in racism so it doesn't get out until they have all the power and i i'll come back to candy on the power and the proletariat and the dictatorship thing that's super important but then he's going over all his colleges and there's this problem and he wants to like crap on white people he's got his other book sorry he's how is how to be an anti-racist i forgot to say that and that's where he says the only page 19 the only way the only remedy to pass discrimination is present discrimination and the only revenue to present discrimination is future discrimination so he's advocating for discrimination so then he looks at the colleges and you have this problem going on there's a lot of white kids that are pretending all of a sudden to be people of color right they're pretending to be some other race and they've got their sad story or whatever and he's like wanting to say well this is just you know white people trying to cash in on you know they're trying to exploit you know the system or the situations of people color to their own advantage yet again that's like his analysis of everything because it's called everything racist until you control it and it kind of blew up on him because what he's actually pointing out is there is in a strong incentive structure to pretend that you're not white because the advantage lies somewhere else now under this ideology and so he ends up torpedoing his own thing now people screw up on twitter all the time believe you me i'm all about screwing up on twitter i know about this however there are certain things you don't do when you screw up on twitter the first thing you don't do is just freaking delete that [ __ ] because then everybody's like oh he knew he was wrong so candy deletes it and then he starts comes back the next day and like decides to do these tweet threads and just like blow everybody up and so this guy jack posobik like calls him out on all of this and then he starts going after jack and that's a mistake jack's really good at twitter you don't go after people who are really good at twitter and have like 1.3
million followers and so he ends up just torpedoing himself and he actually like vanished from the limelight for a little while until they brought him back out for martin luther king you know critical race theory day uh and he he did his thing there where he's like we're going to interpret martin luther king in a particular way and white people shouldn't be invoking him especially his you know most famous i have a dream speech but he vanished for a while because he torpedoed himself because he admitted that under the regime that they've created that the advantage doesn't flow automatically to white people white privilege is no longer material in the systems they've created because white people pretending to be of a person of color they getting colleges easier yeah why why else would you do it unless there was some incentive right if your race literally didn't matter so by saying that what he's done the the where the [ __ ] up is he's undercut his own theory right yeah he's like no you know white people have permanent privilege and then he's describing how white people have to pretend to be people of color to gain access to privileged locations in society it's like whoops and poor guy he's not the brightest dr candy but i i want to talk about him for a second because i mentioned his books but in 2019 he got asked by politico they have this series how to how to do whatever right and so how do you fix inequality i kid you nuts one paragraph and he says the way we fix inequality is by instituting a anti-racist constitutional amendment and what will it do he says it's going to be based on two principles that all the races are equal and inequity so differences in outcome on average biracial group over a certain threshold will be by definition racist be be chalked up to racism racism was the cause of any outcomes that are different by group on average and so then he says what's this thing this constitutional amendment that enshrines those principles which by the way misspelled the word principles i could even show you he literally misspelled
principles uh in his little one paragraph write-up he says what's he going to do it's going to establish this thing called the department of anti-racism doa not making that up either come on dude doa dead on arrival like all right yeah what's that going to do it's going to be able to it's going to be first of all composed of formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees he tells us and if we ended up pulling this thing up i'm telling you i'm like quoting this thing from memory i've read it so many times like to public audiences and it's no politic yeah right here look the amendment would make unconstitutional racial equity over a certain threshold as well as racist ideas by public officials it would establish and permanently fund the department of anti-racism complying to formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees like serious i'm like doing it word for word almost from memory the doa would be responsible for pre-clearing all local state and federal public policies that's a [ __ ] dictatorship pre-clearing what does that even mean pre-clearing all local state and federal public policies to ensure that they won't yield racial inequity pre-clearing yeah so you're if you want to have a local law in your you know austin city council or whatever or texas state policy or federal government policy the department of anti-racism at the federal government run by people like ibram kennedy who are formerly trained experts on racism which is code for critical race theorists are going to decide is that going to be an anti-racist thing to do or might it somehow create racism and so they're going to have absolute jurisdiction over all local state and federal public policies and then we're going to put them into into action if they get cleared pre-cleared i guess monitor those policies investigate private racist policies when racial and equity surfaces so that now you're google it's not even a public policy and now your corporate policy is going to be subjected to this as well and to monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas the doa would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over
and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas that's a dictatorship led by the anti-racist as he calls them who are formally trained experts on racism which means critical race theorists that's marxism 101 that you're going to have the proletariat no political appointees because those would be the bourgeois people and they're going to seize the means of production establish a dictatorship of the proletariat that's now going to be in charge of clearing all policies on all levels to make sure that it yields economic equity but see you got to unpack this because if you looked at it on the surface you said well who the hell would be against stopping racism what's because that's what it's not about right like even says in his book that it directly says that the remedy is discrimination so it depends on how you want to define racism which means we're playing this weird game and the way that they want to define racism is this weird structural thing that the white people set up society for their own benefit it excludes everybody else and because they've done that uh their benefit is basically perpetual they never actually investigate it they need a critical theorist to tell them where they're actually being racist and so of course people don't want there to be racism but what they mean by racism is actually how society works because they believe it was created in white supremacy and therefore the entire like i said before marxist structure of society it marxist theory structure of society the organizing principle of society is actually racism so racism is the and this is quoting from another book which is a critical race theory and introduction in case we wonder if it's about critical race theory racism is the ordinary state of affairs in society not an aberration from them it's so-called normal science that's from richard delgado from 2001 he wrote that book same book where he actually says that critical race theorists find another liberal mainstay this page 23 to be uh they call in a question another liberal
mainstay or highly suspicious sorry i want to get the wording right critical racers are highly suspicious of another liberal name mainstay namely rights so they're highly suspicious of rights highly suspicious of rights like what does that mean well they say rights are said to be alienating because i could say a racial slur to you and then you could say hey you can't say that hate speech and i say free speech but what about rights like the right to bear arms same thing that like all second amendment is racist they would say definitely so because more white people than black people own guns and if black people go to own guns you say oh no angry black person with a gun he's probably a criminal blah blah blah so yeah definitely everything for them the entire structure of society has racism baked into it yeah the if i put it in their terms what critical race theory says is that racism was baked into the law from the beginning stamped from the beginning being the title of candy's other book and it doesn't come out without a revolution that installs this kind of guy in power that's the only solution therefore they are the only solution they are the only people who have what's called a critical consciousness of race who therefore understand race to actually work this way have you debated anybody on this ah kinda it's hard to debate them they don't like to debate i did a small debate in fort worth at the beginning of november um but i was with who is some youtube guy i'm almost embarrassed to say his name his real name is justin um he goes by jangles jingles like mr bojangles without the bow part like just jangles it's really strange um that's his youtube handle yeah a very i had very short patience with this guy so it's fun to watch like i was pretty mad uh so i encourage people to watch it uh i went on dr phil and we kind of had a debate they had a professor um sean harper from usc he's a critical race theory guy i looked up his cv he's got all his like he's not just like got some of the credentials for the academic stuff but he's got like he lists all of the grants that he's worked under it's like you know critical race and education
this blah blah blah bill melinda gates foundation 750 000 he's got millions from the bill melinda gates foundation and others uh to push this critical race theory uh and so this guy's like i guess he's kind of somehow in connection with dr phil too he's like you know they know each other he's been on the show before or something because at the beginning of the show he's like oh it's good to see you again or whatever you know like always be good to be here so they know each other somehow um but they brought him out first and then he dumps on a bunch of parents like this is a story man i'm still kind of pissed about this and i'm pretty even killed guy so i got told i was going to go on dr phil have a debate and there's going to be this professor and so he's their domain expert i'm the opposing sides anti-crt domain expert so they bring the crt guy out and he like is by himself this is no debate he's just framing the whole thing and then they start bringing out dad they bring out this dad derek wilbur he's just this guy from colorado three kids whatever conservative black dad and he's like no this is critical race theory and he's saying all this stuff and then the professor just starts making fun of him like you don't know what you're talking about it's not even in schools that's not critical race theory like just belittling him everything he says and i'm sitting in the back watching this because i'm not allowed out there yet like he's lying oh my god or he doesn't know one or the other this is shameful and then they bring out some moms they bring out another expert on the crt side first and then they double up on poor derrick and then they start bringing out some moms and it's like professors and professionals versus regular moms and dads and it's obviously you know stacked and they brought me out like the last two minutes like literally and i was so pissed off like if dr phil asked me some question i was like i didn't even answer it i just started saying like you guys are lying you know i just kind of went nuts it was super fun um so i sort of i mean that kind of is a debate but they didn't let me actually certainly not a debate see what if they respond to what you said
no they didn't no they well you said they were liars one person said well it's not taught in schools like right at the very end actually that's not how it ended that's how they edit it to end the way it really ended was i had gone off about this one specific thing that the professor had laughed at derek for so derek had said blah blah blah started in 1989 and the professor was like 1989. how silly is his books from the 1970s and he was referring to derek bell's race racism and american law from 1970 and but it turns out the founding conference of critical race theory was in madison wisconsin in a convent off the campus of university of wisconsin at madison in 1989 and that's where kimberly crenshaw who's one of the chief critical racers named it critical race theory because it's critical theory using race and race racial justice that employs critical theory that's what she said so is it semantics like why is he defining it as a previous book i mean as occurring from a priest you could say that it actually at the first real book of critical race theory was in the 1970s but he brings up 89 this guy has to be aware of the relevance of 1989 but he like it's one thing to say you know actually it goes back a little further than that but yeah that's a significant date but no he made fun of the guy so anyway the way the show the recording really ended was i had went off and i was like you know it was 1989 you know you know about the conference and i just did kind of the whole thing and i even added that richard delgado who wrote the critical research introduction was at that meeting and he had this interview in like 97 or something and he describes it and he says um you know we're in the convent uh he says there's an austere room with crucifixes here and there on the wall and then he puts in and you know he dashes off he adds a kind of parenthetical account he says there's an odd setting for a bunch of marxists and like that's the founding conference that's one of the guys at the founding conference of critical race theory describing the founding conference of christians did you ask why they only brought you out in the last two minutes why they wasted all this time that was definitely
like the opportunity to ask such a question maybe if the producer afterwards could have come up but he seemed really happy and uh he was happy in what way he was like i kept getting told by the people who work there probably end up getting half of them fired now i got told by a bunch of people here i'm so glad you got to come out and actually say something about this we love what you have to say about it and the producer was all like yeah so great what you did was so great it's going to be so they liked that you did that or did they like that there was an argument i don't know because the problem is they were happy but the problem is when they have those television shows what they're really like is conflict yeah they don't necessarily like that you had a poignant well they were coming like they came back into my dressing room kind of one by one and told me you know secretly i listen to your podcast and agree with most of what you say so i think there's a little bit of both secretly is not good what's los angeles i know but it's [ __ ] dumb like i'm sick of it but why do they have these kind of conversations where they have a bunch of people who are professionals at discussing these topics gang up on someone who's a parent well you know why because it sets the narrative control they get to frame the narrative in a certain way these are why why would dr phil want to do that that doesn't make sense i mean i don't know why dr phil i don't know his motivations i didn't even speak it's probably his producers yeah or i mean he's under the oprah umbrella so you know and oprah's promoted stuff like critical race theory ideas for the last little while and when she's done that why do you think she's doing that she's probably thinking that this is a good thing because we're addressing racism yeah because a lot of people is totally plausible that she just thinks this is a good thing and gets swept up and i don't know that oprah winfrey is a marxist or anything like that i'm not saying anything like that i don't know but the framing was clear just to finish the story the last word though i bust this guy from 1989 and
derek is actually being a funny dude turns the doctor phil and he points and he's like i told you in 1989 you know so ha ha everybody laughs right but they edited it to where the last word apparently came from one of them saying but that's not even taught in schools which is false it's they're not teaching why would they do that why would they edit it that way i don't know probably to try to make me look crazy i like dr phil he's a great guy he's been on my podcast he squeezed my shoulder he's all right because they stuck me in the audience so squeeze your shoulders as he walked by he like put his hand on my shoulder and like squeeze it or whatever so that makes him all right well he's nice enough for the circumstance i don't know he might not be all right he was a g you know he's a good guy he was a guest on the show and i'm very good friends with his son so there you go i'm right off of you it's just i i think shows like that are terrible i do too not that they're terrible always but they're terrible for discussing any complex issue that you absolutely need to have people say like it needs to be a volley like it takes exactly game like a formal debate even well at least a conversation yeah so it would have been cool time constraints of those formats they they don't lend themselves to discussing complex issues correct correct if they would have brought me and him out like him first fine whatever and then me afterwards to kind of discuss and respond and then start bringing parents out it would have been a very different structure to the show very different but i could see why they did it the way they did it because it incites conflict and that's what gets ratings well i got parents there and well i mean if you were at the last two minutes you probably didn't honestly that's well because most people don't make it to the last two minutes that's true those kind of shows they're very top-heavy like just like podcasts are it's because if you watch them it's like well any shows but most people aren't there to the very end like if you watch any show whether it's the tonight show or [ __ ] jimmy kimmel the vast majority of people are watching in the beginning and they
they tail off they tail off people get bored this when we have developed an entire culture that has a short attention span yeah don't tell me about it so you have a complex issue like uh discussing curriculums in schools that do or don't promote certain theories right you need people to [ __ ] sit down and discuss it yeah long form yeah long form and if you got one of those guys on your podcast then it would be interesting that would be interesting yeah have you reached out to any of those people i don't interview people on mine so i haven't reached out to anybody i'd be willing to yeah i mean i certainly should yeah i've seen lots of people try to get these things set up um i had some friends who concocted this scheme where people would give money and then like you'd build up a pot and get donated either to the person participating or to charity whatever if they participated to kind of like leverage debates and does that work for normal people but when they've tried to get like robin d'angelo white fragility or ibrahim kennedy or whatever no they they just won't come even if you like exceed the amount that they're normal well it seems like they've got a thing going on and they don't want to [ __ ] up this thing that they've got going on i think that's correct they've got it completely locked in where they're generating a lot of income by speaking and they have a justification in-house inside their theory that says that you know if they sit down and talk to you you're already on like the the bad list right you're already i'm on the bad list well you're on you're on some bad lists right you're a right-wing extremist now according to everybody um never voted right wing in my life i know right i didn't until the last election did you vote for trump yeah yeah yeah i i said i was going to and i had to go on tv in like multiple countries to explain myself and why did you decide to vote for trump a variety of reasons um one was i don't perceive biden as being a radical i perceive biden as being corrupt and so i figured he was going to get pushed around by his radical party and other forces like possibly you know weird stuff with china weird stuff with
ukraine or russia or whoever might be involved but china certainly and what makes you think that biden is corrupt that he's always been corrupt that's crazy don't people change well he's changed a little in the last few years well he's lost his ability to count yeah and like it doesn't speak very well anymore yeah actually when i got picked up from the airport um on my way to the hotel when you flew me in here um the guy that drove me the driver was like yeah i drove joe biden around here a few years ago we got talking about that somehow and he's like he kept asking me come on man well he kept he's like what city are we in what city you're wearing that was like four or five years ago whoa yeah and it's like austin texas yeah it could not be true that guy could be just a [ __ ] crazy trump supporter you never know they're all nuts you know but so i figured he was corrupt i figured the media which was holding trump to account for everything he did and millions of things he didn't even do or say was not going to treat biden similarly i figured they were going to run cover for them and i fundamentally believe that it's crucial to a democracy that the or republic really that the press is holding power to account like the pres the press shouldn't be the the megaphone of the administration the press should be asking them tough questions and i just perceived that's not going to happen and then they were writing articles which have not come true yet but it told me what direction they were thinking that said things like we should you know if we don't get our way with the supreme court we should start ignoring the supreme court maybe we shouldn't actually have a supreme court maybe we should pack the supreme court maybe we don't need a constitution anymore these these are in like you know new republic level leftist magazines this isn't like joe biden came out and said that but i watched kamala support bailing out the black lives matter rioters i saw the rhetoric around all the racial equity stuff and knowing how critical race theory works to the degree that i
do is like i can't support people who are openly supporting critical race theory and its initiatives like that's too too scary so i was like i'm gonna have to bite the bullet and trump's like the the last kind of like you know rock on the train track that might derail this thing before it goes over well people hated trump so badly oh my god intended that biden was a good candidate yeah right intelligent people they they developed this cognitive dissonance where they were allowed to pretend openly and publicly that biden was a good candidate and now that you're seeing who he is and how compromised he is not just compromised mentally but compromised in terms of like his ties to businesses and the way they're running things whatever's going on with the sun that's [ __ ] i mean that was another ingredient too right the the biden laptop hunter biden laptop disappearing like the media deciding this is something we're not gonna talk about i was like oh [ __ ] the media is not gonna play this right if he's president no they didn't play it at all it's it was really creepy because it's a real issue and they had decided that the game had gone further and far enough where you couldn't have an additional democratic candidate that was the only one right and so because of that they were willing to ignore truth yeah exactly that's scary it's scary because that's how that i mean once you get people to accept that now we're in a cult right and so that's why i voted for trump yeah i was like no i'm not going along with that and like if i have to bite the bullet to vote for trump now i kind of think the guy's hilarious so i'm like yeah all right i think he's pretty funny did you hang out with him i have not hung out with him did you go somewhere where he was i was at mar-a-lago it was like he didn't 35 40 feet away no it was a fundraiser what'd you like to be oh i met him what am i saying i met him uh yeah i met him at the ufc i was actually working i was sitting there uh and he came over and shook my hand by the way regular-sized hands regular sized towns and i have big hands so it's it's a it's a nuts it's one of those weird things where they're just like trying to pretend yeah
of course he's got like these little t-rex arms and little tiny hands like no normal hands but i think he just wears a big suit because he's overweight yeah and when you look at his hands and like this like he's trimming down now is he yeah he's apparently trimmed down quite a bit let me see some video like there's some picture oh i just i don't know you're a trump supporter what's going on is it propaganda yeah manga you went to uh mar-a-lago i did go to mar-a-lago you were hanging out with him and you know my deep old-school left sensibilities right this is the only place on earth i've ever walked into and looked around and the first thing i thought was this place shouldn't exist really it's so opulent it's gorgeous like if there's five star is five star you know it's like seven stars is it crazy crazy can anybody go there what is mar-a-lago i don't even know what it is it's like his house but it's also an event yeah a club event place so i don't know his house i mean he has quarters there yeah quarters right but isn't it like a country club or something like what is it i don't know it's like a thing that i've never questioned when's like mar-a-lago oh trump's place yeah but then i'm like well why are so many people there like what is that yeah i mean is it a it's the winter white house he said remember right and so you went to the winter white house yeah it was fun he's got his own little spot yeah i went to it was a fundraiser for ken paxton and so who's that you're near texas he is your attorney general texas attorney general yeah here we go trump's viral pick showing remarkable weight loss slammed as fake as hell so that's the pick on the right is it fake who knows who knows maybe lost some weight i mean he was a good 30 40 feet away from what are you reading this from looking at why they're saying it's fake no i'm i know i'm thinking like what is the website uh so i just typed in weight loss there was some pictures this is an older story from like september there were 15 pounds is what maybe it was and he's really
orange there both of them he's orange yeah but one the one on the left is ridiculous he's a little ridiculously orange is that makeup like what is that i don't know i don't know him that well says the idea that they do that just to make him look healthier because if he was like super pale and looked like that he looked like [ __ ] maybe i have no idea the one on the right if that is real boy not only does he look like he lost weight like his skin's developed elasticity that it didn't possess yeah maybe a little fake then it looks fake as [ __ ] because i saw some other pictures like body shots he looked like he lost some white like in his golf clothes or whatever let me see this but this is like many months ago yeah i just typed in trump losing weight and wasn't getting a ton of recent like october 11th that's because he got banned from twitter so he doesn't sit on his phone all damn day yeah it's about the guy who was his like making money being an impersonator lost 45 pounds after he stopped doing it oh wow after okay um so i don't know m e a double double w w yeah dot com what is that so some weird way sure so let's go over images trump losing weight oh this is gonna be wild did you but you saw him at mar-a-lago did he look thin i mean how long ago was a bit of a dis it was a beginning of december but he was doing uh there was a video of him talking just like a couple of days ago where he was talking about biden and making fun of biden he looked like exactly the same search maybe he's not losing weight trump recent speech just google that trump recent speech because i looked at him he looked exactly the same when i met him he was not thin no well it certainly quite a few months ago he was not thin when he was in office by any means no but i mean when i saw him but again that was quite a few months ago the point he came over said hello do you do tremendous job you both do tremendous tremendous jobs daniel cormier former ufc light heavyweight and heavyweight champions like i would not want to fight this man that's not looking thin that is not then at all that was recently three days ago
it said three days ago he's gonna do some jumping jacks bro that's not working that's fat so that photo was fake well i mean hilarious he put all those blacks for trump behind him with white shirts that is hilarious that is a new thing this blacks for come on is that set up or was that set up i mean this is wild [ __ ] man you saw that picture that was going around the other day right with the fat the fat woman and it's supposed to be like the new face of fitness or something yes that kills me i hate that that fat studies body positive oh my god it's so dumb it's so bad for people in the middle of covid where we know yes like it does something with your fat cells and makes you die or whatever right it's one it's one of the comorbidities it's like come on it's one of the biggest commercials yeah seriously it's uh it's so strange that people are just accepting that but no i didn't meet trump yet so it might be coming i got another one i got another image that's hilarious it's another one of those fat things where some woman was saying that uh in order to dismantle fat phobia we have to destroy western civilization that's what i'm telling you dude same thing it's like if it's ever call everything fatphobic that you want to control until you control it it's the same facility and the only remedy is to destroy the existing civilization and then you've got klaus schwab over here saying yes destroy it and we're going to move in our new freaking reset system i'm telling you that's what's going on so i'll say i'll just send it to you jamie so what do you think that this is but here's my thing i'm always hesitant to believe that there's some sort of a grand plan because the government is so incompetent so in that look at this to end fat phobia we need to dismantle western civilization says philadelphia therapist no what she's just wrong well she's just sad do you remember that fake paper he wrote about fat bodybuilding yes yes well for folks that don't know you with helen pluck rose and uh peter bogosian had written a bunch of these fake grievance papers yeah fake papers and grievance studies fact studies gender studies and these studies were
unfortunately accepted lauded and appraised and you guys even won awards yeah for these parody studies yeah yeah well seven of them were accepted one got an award uh for excellence that was about dog sex ted please explain that one because that's my favorite one yeah so what's it called again uh human reactions to queer performativity and uh something else in urban dog parks in portland oregon rape culture queer performance in rape culture in uh urban dog parks in portland oregon so we we claim that we we we spend a thousand hours as one person feminist watching dogs hump each other and fight each other in dog parks a thousand hours is so long in a year yeah it's like five hours a day and then um across like a work week or whatever so they didn't even investigate that but wait a minute and we said never in the heavy rain which in portland right it's like come on it's not even possible then yeah and so and then we said we there were over 10 000 dogs that we interact with which is so many there's only like you know 20 30 dogs to go to any given park probably it's just like the neighborhood park and uh but we we inspected their genitals when they and then we would see how their owners reacted you know did they in particular did they praise like male on female dog rape while being upset about mail on mail dog rape and so the gay dog rape if they were they were bothered by that and we claimed that that's what they they did and this won an award yeah this one an award for excellence and scholarship and we said that dog parks are canine rape culture they're petri dishes of canine rape culture actually and they are rape condoning spaces just like nightclubs here's the problem with like it's so hard people are so nuts right now it's hard to tell parody jamie pull up this article that i posted on my instagram from the san francisco uh chronicle this oh yeah i don't even know for sure if that one's parody or not i i i don't think it can be because i read people saying it was parody yeah i think they're ready because it starts with like yeah it starts with like okay a
modest proposal or whatever like the state should own all of your children or whatever but isn't it in a newspaper it's fine yeah you can do satire in a newspaper that's what it's kind of that's so confusing but what i said is like in a world gone mad it's uh yeah forced parents to give away children yeah i think it starts with a modest proposal blah blah blah which means it would be satire because well it's i looked at it i was like what is this so i said the world got mad it's harder and harder to spot parodies that's the thing yeah that's why when i looked at this but this is the san francisco chronicle it says opinion want true equity california should force parents to give away their children like is that okay if that's clear parody and it seems like it is to me when i read that i was like okay this is what's crazy is that the world is so nuts it's hard to spot parody exactly exactly and it's so hard i'll tell you this an update to the grievance studies papers that fat bodybuilding had just brought up yes there is a neuroscientist in fact you remember that thing with like the getting like the phobia of holes in things like that yes the trypophobia or whatever they called it like something that looks like a honeycomb and you're like uh you know something the guy jeff cole is his name the neuroscientist who identified that phobia wrote a paper saying that there's nowhere that you could stand to say that fat bodybuilding is actually ridiculous i'm not kidding he was like you could not poss no there's no ability to have like genuine consensus about what kind what's ridiculous and what's not ridiculous and i was like what what the [ __ ] does that mean that's opinion people could think oh people could think you're shoot your suit is ridiculous anything goes yeah anything goes right um but there's no grounds to stand on that fight i would say fat bodybuilding is ridiculous yeah and this is a neuroscientist this isn't some like feminist that wants to justify being allowed to be fat and not have her feelings hurt so
like yeah dude it's like you can't tell it's clown world it's like literally like satire and reality look how many times the babylon bee has been like fact checked or you know they got fact checked this is my favorite one to bring up they got fact check for saying that cnn buys giant washing machines so they can spin the news before they air it and they were they got fact check on that like they did not actually buy washing machines like can you imagine how stupid you are being the straight man on that they are they fact checked by ai like what are they fact checked by they're fact checked by millennials probably do you think so i don't know like how could they be fact checked for something that dumb giant washing machines like that that's almost like i'm wondering if this is farmed out to ai i mean it's it might be like they've been fact checked a number of times on things that are very obviously fake you know one of the things that i've read that gave me hope and i don't know why i should have any hope is that um they said that cnn was going to switch their format to an objective news format and they were going to get rid of all their opinion-based editorial staff like the donald yeah like those knuckleheads that we're gonna get rid of them you know that would be if it's genuine as a positive step well they have to know that they've destroyed their business they have no credibility left and they have to think that you know like but the thing about the 90 drop in the ratings last year they want to say that it's because of scandals that's like what it really does you know those don't know but they don't help the two guys again two more people that got busted being pedophiles yeah right yeah that were on their staff which is [ __ ] wild producers totally nuts right producer for jake tapper and there's a producer for who else was the upper the other producer was it cuomo yes i think so because he got all no yeah maybe i don't know i can't remember um two high-level producers but that's most people don't know that though most people aren't even aware no because they
never even covered it right it's that their programming sucks it's not just that it sucks but it's preposterous preposterous yeah it's preposterous it's like sultanation says you know we know they're lying they know they're lying yeah we know they know you know the whole thing it's also the smugness in which they disseminate propaganda that that their people know that they're full of [ __ ] and they're doing it with a smugness and it's just it turns people off turns them way off it would turn people off even if they were accurate yeah yeah that attitude sucks it sucks it's like i remember when i was a kid like my mom being like you know what you're saying might be right but your attitude sucks or whatever you know if i smartness it's also an extreme lack of understanding of human nature the way the way they discuss things like one of the things they were talking about shaming people like whether or not we should start shaming you know people for not following the public health guidelines that have changed over and over again and proven over and over again to be wrong right like what are you [ __ ] saying see this is you're on you're on the news yeah and you're talking about shaming people shaming people yeah this is what i'm telling you dude this is why i actually am hopeful i am cautiously optimistic it's not going to fix itself but because of the drop-off of their well not specifically the drop-off it's that they are so arrogant that they think they can just get away with anything and what that causes is people to see through it yeah and when enough people see through it i mean their ratings are going to drop 90 and then other forces are going to come into play or you know protests are going to start coming up or whatever else and one of my favorite ones was when brian stelter was talking about how how what a shame it was that there are programs on youtube that get more ratings than cnn in prime time and i remember thinking like what do you think you guys that people
owe you ratings yeah do you think you deserve ratings they're so arrogant what do you think ratings are coming from do you think like this concept that cnn is a respectable news source like bro this is 2022 yeah or 2021 when that was yeah yeah like this is not 2005. like right that's that ship has sailed yeah no you don't know that that entitlement i'm i'm cautiously optimistic because i think they're just going to keep making mistakes but it's so wild that that's the big one you know like that's the one controversial like cnn used to be rock [ __ ] solid yeah that used to be the place that i would go for everything yeah of course i would go to cnn.com like first thing in the morning see what's happening in the world now i look at them like what kind of spin are they yeah what nonsense is this how little have you investigated into this story to did to spread it this way right yeah how is it how is this racism or racism is a public health right now or whatever else it is there's a little spin on this story too yeah it's 90 down from where it was from this week last year which was the week that the riots happened which would have been watching the news oh that's a little dodgy i went back to 2019 that when they were going up and they were getting just over a million viewers a day-ish at the best yeah that was before the sh the the elections yeah the thing they're the trump thing for sure they lost 50 percent because that was like an objective analysis of all of their ratings yeah and they were talking about that across the board that was a giant number that's a lot of people because that means you're dependent upon conflict so that sets up what you're doing that you have to find some outrage and that's the other thing people get outraged fatigue like no one wants to listen to that crap all the time like people just want some normal life also you can't force outrage nope like when it's not really that outrageous like j6 yeah like we have to be all really mad about this thing a year later and they pulled a bunch of democrats and they're like it's not really on my list of concerns my favorite is when they ask kamala harris questions and then she gives like a kid in seventh
grade essay like when they're trying to fill the 150 words that you have to use or whatever the [ __ ] it is like it is crazy to hear hear her talk about it when she was talking about pearl harbor and she was talking who the other uh yeah pearl harbor civil war 9 11. and then and then january september 6th where you know a bunch of [ __ ] morons went into the capital and probably were instigated by the feds right and what is that what did norma mcdonald say about it you know he said you know how how great it was that they respected the velvet ropes in statuary hall god what a genius oh i miss him oh man well listen man let's wrap this up let's bring it home there's no happy ending to this show folks we're in a weird time i guess the happy ending is what you're saying that people are kind of aware yeah no i think there is a happy ending i think we're going through a bumpy time but man are they stupid and it's like they can't understand why people don't like them and that's always a good sign that they're probably not going to win well it's also they really hate independence like independent media that's successful and they want to demonize independent media also that's bipartisan like or that is least objective and is willing to talk to people on all sides yeah and they they want they want to regain control but they want to do it through the old methods and that's not going to work in this day and age that's right that's right so that's what i'm saying that it's like i think we're going through you know we talk about the enlightenment i think we're going through the second enlightenment i think we're i talked earlier about like an aristocracy of ideas and the media figureheads and the professors and the experts get to decide what is and isn't true for people i think the internet is allowing people to do their own research as it were and is burning that down and we're going to have a real marketplace of ideas and we're going to have more freedom
if we don't let them i think they're like they see their freedom slipping away and they're like grasping for it and their their power i should say is slipping away and they're grasping for it and i think we're for a while i wasn't sure but i'm pretty confident now like we're going to get through this and we're going to have a more free smarter society on the other side it's not to say it's going to be smooth for the next little while and it's not to say that we can go to sleep and it'll just work itself out how much time you think we got before that works itself out 10 15 years with the working out but for the bro basically to be dead by then well i mean the [ __ ] man 15 years and 15 years like 70. how long will it be before we can get back to some semblance of normal life though right like that literally could be this year you think so well i mean i'm not do you think i don't think england's like with england when they when they're having this you know completely dropping all of their covid mandates you know i think we're going to have to i think everywhere i think the the coveted narrative has fallen apart and it just looks like heavy-handed government authority abusing power to keep trying to force this crap on people they've kind of hit information though like one of the things they're doing now is they're hiding the death count now because it's so low with omicron but the fact that we know that is proof that that information is getting out and it's going to keep getting out these alternative sources that they don't want you listening to that cnn thinks that they should be you know getting the ratings instead this is this is escaping their grasp and if people actually stand up and say no we're not going to do this you know we're and we what's going to have to happen though here's if you want the positive path it doesn't really matter too much if it's republican or democrat but you're going to have more space in the republican side of the aisle the place where america is going to be put to the political test is going to be in the primaries this
year and because they're going to try to run a bunch of establishment stooges because they now know the democrats have no prospects so they're going to try to run a bunch of establishment stooges in the republican people to kind of just keep the pot on simmer we have to fix the schools though because the schools are their next best hope if they can screw up the kids then they're going to be able to just try again in a few years and to you know throw another you know cultural bomb and we're having as more people become 18 years old they're yeah exactly exactly and so if we're willing to you know do everything in our power to rescue the schools and to avoid going into this kind of like digital passport mentality then we can throw off their plans and i think what's going to happen i think what they're reaching for so desperate some of these people are being exposed as either frauds or maybe even criminals and they don't want that to happen because they're going to lose all their power and maybe go to jail and so they're trying to like clamp down and make sure you can't listen to different voices they might call them rightfully those things yeah right they don't want to hear people like dr malone come on here and say a bunch of stuff about kovid that makes them look like a bunch of either uh you know incompetent people or [ __ ] or criminals and so they've got to try but they're they they can't put the cork back in the bottle there's too many holes or whatever it's a bad metaphor but you can't it's a broken bottle i hope you're right i'm you know you asked me last time i came on here if i was optimistic and i said well i have to be because i have no use for pessimism i'm actually optimistic now i'm like genuine it's cautious but i'm genuinely optimistic but we all have to be willing this most important thing we have to be willing to stand up and we have to willing to speak up we have to be willing to say no we're going to put people in office who are going to start safeguarding our freedom from big tech safeguarding our freedom from these stupid you know medical tyranny attempts we're not going to go down
freaking climate change passports next guys like we're just not you you're not gonna we need to put in safeguards for people like at you know like the bill of rights level that you can't take people out of society based on these these stupid things like whether it's big tech squeezing people out whether it's out of the space to speak or whether it's um you know this medical apartheid or whatever they're doing if we can put those if we can get the right people and get enough momentum behind it and get those people to say these things to start figuring out the legalities of these things to protect citizens again we can actually get out of this i hope you're right james lindsay thank you very much appreciate you conceptual james follow on twitter it's an awesome follow you tweet all day long you got a real problem with that i do wake up stop doing that go outside all right touch grass love you guys bye [Music] [Applause] [Music]