is there a way to practice the hard conversations 100% there is and so many people think they’re above rehearsals role play those are those are things that are critical to seal performance on the battlefield I think a lot of people don’t realize that we actually we we do work rehearsals and walkthroughs before every single operation and we try to mimic that maybe it’s you know we’re out training in the desert we might even have like you know we might lay out rocks or put tape on the ground so it in mimics bill if we if we if there’s not actual buildings to use for training facilities or or and we have everyone stand together and their sticks and we know who’s getting on the helicopter here and these guys are gonna be on the second helicopter there those are the kind of things that allow people in the dark of night when it’s crazy and it’s chaotic to go to the right place do what they’re supposed to do everything as simple as unloading from a vehicle just we would practice that we we had this we had this giant truck that we use when the Aidid threats started getting really bad in Iraq initially she steals offers for riding in the back on benches in in the back of a Humvee kind of an open bed like a truck truck time back and then the ID threat the roadside bombs I started getting so dangerous that we had to put guys inside armor and so that means the Humvees could only carry five guys you know if you don’t have guys in the back so so we had to take this giant we call it the man truck and we think we nicknamed it big zip was art was our truck and it was it was a big five ton truck and you know a flatbed truck and and they’d I don’t know if previous seals or if the army had done it rains but we had welded these a quarter-inch steel plates around it and then we had then we had sandbags in the bottom of it so that was like our that was our protection and most of the sandbags were like torn up because the boots going in and out and so it was you’re just sitting on sand so have you got blown up who wouldn’t have provided a whole lot of protection from you but you get loan up and Sandy getting out of that truck is substantial when you got 20 guys sit in the back of that truck and they’re you know it with some of our guys are key of soldiers that were with us our Jun DS and you got to open swing open this giant heavy you know quarter-inch steel doors in the back and then you got to put a ladder out and everyone’s got to climb down that ladder that takes some time and guess what that can turn into Three Stooges real quick no doubt sure that who can get injured we’ve had guys fall off the trucks like that and dislocate their shoulders and literally have to get sent home but more important if it’s if it takes three minutes or four minutes to do something like that that’s three or four minutes that you don’t have guns pointing it in every direction and it’s critical so we had to practice that and practice that and practice that until we could do it in less than 30 seconds and and then if we have two different assault forces we got to make sure assault ones line up on the left side of the road assault twos line up on the right side of the road I mean those things that you we have to practice that over and over and over again and it seems really juvenile it seems very elementary but if you did if you took the time to practice that performance your performance is so much better when you actually get out in the dark at night the chaos have been an unknown area and worried about you know bad guys and where they are and all those things happening and making sure people went to the place they need to go so having those conversations practicing it sitting down with someone who understands how that person might respond for a tough conversation role play maybe you know they they try different scenarios whether they’re really it’s a softball or easy scenario it’s a difficult scenario and it’s the worst case scenario worst-case scenario so the more you do that the better it is and this is something that Joc when I’ve done quite a bit is with companies we work with is role play you got a council again and it’s easy just to say well you screwed up you were firing you but if it’s this is a good guy he messed up you got to try to get him on board to use this plan or you have to talk him down from doing this out on it you know he did something out in town but it’s making the company look that whatever it is and you have to talk to them and that role play is critical and it makes you better and enables you to perform better and so yes you have to do that your hearse yep three or four iterations with someone dealing with in a roleplay scenario they get better you can literally see them get better it’s pretty uh pretty cool we got pretty good getting in and out of big zip
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