again going back to this idea that war reveals human nature and and this is dr frankel’s way of putting this exact same thing that i say back to the book life in a concentration camp tore open the human soul and exposed its depths it is is it surprising that in those depths we again found only human qualities which in their very nature were a mixture of good and evil the rift dividing good from evil which goes through all human beings reaches into the lowest depths and becomes apparent even on the bottom of the abyss which is laid open by the concentration camp so we’ve got this idea once again that there’s a dichotomy in people in people this dichotomy that you’re capable of doing extreme good and you’re capable of doing extreme evil and we’ve seen it a bunch we’ve seen it a bunch on this podcast but you look at the meli massacre those guys were normal guys that committed extreme evil straight up evil normal guys that were you know four days earlier probably would have done something heroic to save someone and here they are the other end of the spectrum and i think that you have to we have to face that not only individually do you have that but then obviously as the group you have that as a group of human beings we have that capability we’ve seen it over and over again and if you want to know what that good part is you got to know what that darkness is too yeah yeah the group thing is interesting like you know you know how you always hear not always but you hear sometimes about these riots on college campuses whether it be after a game or something like that bro at a glance you’d think dang is this college full of full of just hooligans like if this bit like huge riots you know but it’s that it’s like as an individual or you know under quote unquote normal circumstances they just they’re just normal people you know guys girls whatever they’re just normal people but then you put them in this particular situation in some way extreme or whatever you know it’s a spectrum but and they just act different and the whole group dynamic too they’ll just act different the group dynamic is a uh is it can be a very very scary thing man there’s no doubt it can be a very very scary thing and that’s that’s why you know even when he’s talking about and i mentioned this on when i was on joe rogan’s last podcast i’m like this the idea of individual freedom and acting as an individual is so important as to to structure your life around to say look i’m not part of this group this group is not me yeah this group is not me they don’t represent me i represent me exactly and i’m i have my own individual choices and that’s what he’s saying in here the minute you give away to the herd yeah that’s when you start going you don’t know you you no longer control it yeah and when you give up that control that’s a scary scary thing and that’s when these evil things take place yeah and that once again that’s it’s it’s like it’s easy to say now because grouping yourself is actually a survival mechanism true so you you know it’s not going to be just that you’re not going to naturally just be an individual and act like an individual and conduct yourself in all these extreme situations as an individual you’re not just going to naturally do that so i guess it just helps to know these things well that’s you’re you’re a hundred percent right on both facets number one yes grouping and fitting in is a survival instinct that people have and that’s why trends happen and that’s why nations happen and that’s why that’s why groups occur in people and politics yeah and politics and everything right to get these groups and i mean it’s weird now because with the internet you can have groups you can be part of these groups anonymously but it’s also important to make sure that you you do remember that you are an individual that you can that you don’t want to give up that last shred of human will yeah to decide what your attitude is going to be yeah dang and today you know in our luxurious society if you can consciously navigate your way clear that of of falling into the group trap it’s what it is it’s a trap because you don’t have to if you can do that successfully but you won’t fall for the tricks man like that’s the thing you get we all get tricked all the way down to just something as is seemingly benign as marketing just man you’ll just fall for way less tricks you don’t like those tricks out there in the world do you no i don’t probably fell for too many of them i think
