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The Joe Rogan Experience are you done are you done fighting 100 I'm done you're done I'm done 100 and it was hard for me to get out after being in there for 20 years and that's your identity yeah you know and and then I just kind of got into trying to be a father you know and I was doing that thing try to be around more and then and then all this stuff happened and I find myself in here but I do think all the blood all the tears all the sweat all the all the ups and downs all the good media all the bad media all of that was to prepare me for for you know for this kind of you know I I I see like everything that they're gonna throw at me I can kind of see like well I kind of been through that yeah yeah the mental Warfare the mental Warfare that a fighter has to go through I mean my God there's nothing like it in all sports and you know when I first got it decided to get into this I was like you know I I haven't I have I was just retired so I wasn't trying to keep my everything you know perfect in public and this and I was just running around trying to I was just a guy trying to come off of a 20-year a journey of being the baddest man on the planet and then I so it was tough it was really tough to get over you know that identity so as as time when you know I was just living my life some more ups and downs I like I say you know sometimes I was judged fairly other times I wasn't you know and BJ when you were on top you were one of the baddest [ __ ] on Earth you really were you were a guy who went all the way up to heavyweight to fight Leota Machida I mean it's I remember that fight I mean you did some wild [ __ ] dude and you were strangling a lot of [ __ ] people man and for jiu jitsu guys like for all my Jiu Jitsu guys you were the [ __ ] man because you were a smaller guy who choked out Matt Hughes you know who was so [ __ ] good at the time man and man he was a tank when you got his back and and choked him everybody's like oh [ __ ] she gets his back people forgot they forgot those times PJ and you know there was a run like the Sean shirk days Diego Sanchez days you were a scary [ __ ] dude you were a scary [ __ ] you were tuned in when you
were tuned in man you were something fierce I always tell people you have to judge a fighter by The Heights they reached not where they fell afterwards and or or the up and coming fights you got to judge him by the heights that they reached you like a guy like Oliveira he's a great example he's had some losses he's been knocked out but you can't you got to judge him by the height that he's out now you got to be accurate and then maybe he can only sustain that for a few years at the like Fedor could only stand for a few years at the tippity top of performance yes but you got to judge him from that yeah I I it makes me sick when people judge them by their worst performances you know for you the your best performances were spectacular you had some crushing performances when you were training with marinovic and they got you in Tip Top Magoo shape dude you were terrifying when you had that crazy gas tank man I I I did I loved it you know one of the marinovich uh wait what's what's more individual yeah well Mar passed away yeah but Gary's at my house in Hawaii right now he's training some football teams or something and he he has to come down and it's great to have how did that connection happen because they basically changed the way you did strength and conditioning right yes well how did that how'd this introduction happen they uh yeah how did it my brother meant how did I run into them I forget how I exactly but I think my brother introduced me to them and and when they they were just Geniuses man and no matter how good you are they were 50 years ahead I remember we were at uh in UCLA or something and they had that a little cone pattern and they had me run it to see my agility and Marv said well that's too slow and the lady said well how do you know and he said because I made it up these guys were just ahead of everybody that and like they were the guys with the NFL combine and everything was speed because he noticed that like the strongest guys who had the strongest Squad the biggest bench press and all that they had the lowest numbers on the field and then that's how we started to put in the agility the speed the movement the the reflexes and going back
so they were they were really ahead of their time yeah it was wild to watch man they looked like they were torturing you it was you know what Looking Back Now I see everybody and I look at them now all who eats the most at the buffet the hungriest one and that's the whole thing no matter what I'll look and I'll just be like is he still hungry that's the only question I uh or or does he yeah does he still want to eat as much because literally a lot of these guys they haven't ate filet mignon before they have any Lobster and they're still thinking about what that's going to taste like when they get when they finally get the opportunity to buy that for their family yeah there's like a balance right of how long you can maintain that hunger yes how long can you maintain that ferocity yep it has nothing to do with who's the best it's who wants it the most that's what it is and that's what I thought about I mean I kind of knew that about martial arts I mean you go in there and you be right as quick and as violent as and and as intimidating as possible when you get in there but believe me I believe just like me even at my best I'm like what can I get what can I do to make the referee stop this how can I make the referee stop this thing because you're nervous right the hero and the coward they're both scared but the hero is going to step forward yeah you were a wild [ __ ] in your Prime brother you were a wild [ __ ] you were fun to watch the Dean Thomas fight there was a lot of fights that were like holy [ __ ] nothing else mattered to me in my life at that time than than being the the toughest and most skilled martial artist on the planet and this fighter I didn't consider myself a martial artist I just thought of myself as a fighter I'll beat you up because you you were you were certainly doing that man and so when did you did you continue that kind of strength and conditioning routine or did you stop doing it after a while um people start to fall apart and different ideas and coaches start to fight with each other and you know and I that's what happened with with that stuff Marv kind of went his own way because as you get six weeks out from the fight your boxing coach is screaming
he's got a spar he's got a spar and then the other guy is like no this is enough and and they start going and then it has a reaction on you let's explain it to everybody because this is the philosophy the two different philosophies the the marinovich's believe that you already know how to fight all you need to do is just get in ridiculous condition and so they were just gonna put you through that and what did you do like light drills other than that like hitting pads like what kind of stuff did you do but no sparring right maybe not even pads just different things speed a lot of good stuff we do ladders we would do that water workout stuff and they thought that that was more important than anything yes and it was very important I will never say that it wasn't you know and then on the other side it's the same it's people say do you coach you train I say no but if I did I'll tell you what I would do I would show up to the gym I'd tell another coach that had his fighter and I would say hey coach can my boy get a couple rounds with your board up with your boy tomorrow and then I look at my guy and go kick his ass tomorrow and then I'd leave him and make him go home and think about it all night because the act of the physical act of fighting that ain't the fight it's the going home and thinking about it all night long anybody can get into a fight real quick in school but when they say meet me at the park after and the whole school shows up now that's the fight you know or I'll meet you in four months for a UFC card right isn't that amazing that's when it gets wild right when you plan in these fights months out and everybody gets to know that it's coming yes but that that's it sleeping with that that is that's what it's all about sleeping with it controlling it internalizing it