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not only is a mortal technique here but he's brought a [ __ ] so cool that he's wearing a fanny pack Bobby bang bang Bobby bang bang independent of my love for the fanny pack this dude was he's out there all completely on his own on the natch with true love for the fanny pack much respect not only am I uh bringing back to Fanny Pack I just started selling them I sell a higher prime8.com fanny pack it's a quality Roots fanny pack I just Dice Clay was in and he had the dopest fanny pack this sweet leather fanny pack and it was so nice Le fanny pack I'm something good strong it was made by Roots you know that company that makes bags it's like a dope fanny pack and I was like where'd you get that one I was jealous cuz all my other ones were functional but disgusting but this was like was actually fashionable I was like I can bring it back with roots so I contacted roots and had them print up the higher prime8 logo on a fanny pack so boom not just t-shirt but now fanny packs a motherfucker's branching out see there it is it's hard to see the logo but it's a monkey with like a whoever coined the term fanny pack really [ __ ] everybody you know what I mean if it been like survival pack every dude would have one like oh dude I got my new survival pack my it's not a man purse it's a survival pack no dude it's a fanny pack I don't mind saying it I put it on Li down true strength that you're not worried about the definitions of others let me tell you silly word these guys do giveing a hard time during this tour I'm rocking a fanny pack rocket strong no not me it was my idea I would rock that one rocket rocket strong I like that surv survival pack you know it's all in the marketing you know what I mean yeah it's your it's it's your [ __ ] Shield so I keep myself if an asteroid comes from the sky it'll hit my fanny pack before it hits my dick hopefully it'll deflect deflect listen if something's falling out of the a that Fanny p and your [ __ ] and your leg and today's today's cell phone's are very durable my friend I think you're incorrect I think you're out of line you've done no studies yeah there's some [ __ ] people that have survived actually rocks falling from the sky and hit it on them

strange enough a lady got hit in the arm recently was like uh it went through her house and like hit her arm all right you can get gra yeah her arm come on I mean she didn't catch a dome shot you know what I mean that would have been whole other [ __ ] you know yeah most likely you're going to die if you get hit by some something that fall from the sky the Donnie Darko jet falling out of the sky yeah engine most likely if something falls from the sky you're [ __ ] but if it doesn't and it hits your higher primate fanny pack you might survive son you might get through that [ __ ] alive feel better survival pack survival pack indeed indeed survival pack just sounds too phony though no you got got to put survival pack and then you got to put like The Joe Rogan [ __ ] Shield Edition with like just like the metal plate on I think it should just be implied like a metal plate on the top of the The Cameo CS I don't think I should sell it you should have a hole in it so you can play with your dick while like in your car keys so like Diner like the movie Diner remember when you got that girl Micky Ro got that girl to touch his dick by putting it through the popcorn oh that's a old school trick right there that might have been Ed in that movie though I'm not sure probably not you think about all the perverts in the world that shit's probably old really old Jesus Christ um anyway H prime8.com that's the it's primate also yeah it's both now oh it is co yeah now it's uh it's actually uh just H prim.com too I bought that anyway uh we're sponsored by 1 1800flowers.com because it's almost Valentine's Day sweeties Friday F Valentine's Day is one of those ones when you especially if you're just getting into a chick man you got to respect that day birthday is and that one you can blow off Easter you don't have to say Happy Easter but like this [ __ ] Valentine's Day this is a big one boys yo I did the best rber I did the best thing ever for Valentine's Day my son is born on Valentine's Day so I got a pass for the rest of my life like you got the best gift I could ever give you a that's beautiful so so nothing else your son wasn't born go to that's it if that wasn't the case go to 1800flowers.com the podcast sponsor of 1800flowers.com there they have right now a very special offer of two dozen

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survival that's like a douchy word though right like survival like you know like survival survivor man is cool but like survival training we're going through survival training like oh come on man what are you doing have you find people but I mean look there are people who really do that type like my friend told me that uh there was some ex-military dude that he like trains Executives on like this survival like vacation weekend and it's basically like for people that want to feel like they did something important so we take them out to like this like area in the countryside they run a bunch of obstacles and they get them in shape for like you know a week or two and then bust their ass and then they call it like survival training but that's obviously not like real survival train so about I guess you have to jump out of like a parachute out of a [ __ ] plane into like a Wilderness Area and then meet someone at a certain place like 2 weeks later like all right go to like lz1 like you know 15 miles away through like wolf dens and mountain ranges forest and who the [ __ ] else knows you you just can't take the 405 there you got to walk [ __ ] that's survival training they could be a real show like that where they took a guy and just dropped him off hunger game style in the middle of the woods I'm I'm kind of surprised they haven't done that yet that would be kind of very interesting I watch I mean they sort of they like in Survivor they they do go and they have to like get food and they do [ __ ] like that but it's very different than like taking one person and like telling them that they have to make it across a forest and get to another side you know I I never really watched that show too often are were their lives ever really in danger that's the point it's always endurance really more than survival because you know that there's a way out let's take somebody who didn't even know this was going to happen at all and drop them there well those people that are on that show laws you know like when when you like you see that everybody gets by okay and everybody's okay and you know like they're not in danger because it's television don't they're they're in danger if you're in boria or one of those places where they film Survivor Man or uh Survivor rather you're in

danger you're [ __ ] for sure in danger there's a lot of [ __ ] out there like just because there's a bunch of cameras out there doesn't mean they're going to keep you safe like when we did Fear Factor there was a lot of times we just got lucky with like nobody got hurt but it's just because we got lucky like a rattles steak which no like Bulls they made people ride Bulls all that's just ridiculous dude they had a 90 lb girl I say they I'm distancing myself in the show clearly know how I said like he wasn't in there like put that little [ __ ] on top of the bow if it was happening today I swear to God I would tell them not to do it I would tell the girl not to do it 100% like there was a guy um that was like a crazy Daredevil dude I would have said you know hey man people have done it I know Donald Cerrone Donald Cerrone rides Bulls crazy [ __ ] but for most people it's a a hair raising proposition but for this little 98lb girl there's no way she's going to be able to hang on and these guys who were the the stunt guys were like don't worry about it these are stunt Bulls they're uh they're they're less aggressive they're stunt Bulls stunt bull yeah but this like the bull doesn't know it's a [ __ ] stunt bull to the bull he's a bull there's no stunt Bulls in the bull World they don't have like oh well you know I'm just a stunt you know me stunt I'm not going to tear your ass up you know what I mean that's my brother over there got to worry about them other dudes you know I'm just I'm show you his boss and won't stomp on your head no they'll stomp on your [ __ ] head they'll kick you in the face we just got lucky so like survivor man that guy's that's real [ __ ] like there's nothing fake about that show that's when that dude exists by himself and and you know he'll get to like a certain location they'll pick him up like in 5 days he even does them 10 days sometimes but that's the guy that carries his own camera right yeah yes okay that is 100% legit he's in danger he's in danger every show I think I've seen him super dehydrated one time it was really really bad that [ __ ] was in Lion territory the surv Survivor Man the the the Survivor Man or the Survivor the show survivor man I was I was making the comparison between the two of them like that Survivor show

they're still in danger you're you're still in danger you're doing a bunch of dangerous [ __ ] you're doing wild aggressive [ __ ] but no no you know no more danger than anybody would be if you were camping right you know when you're camping you're doing dangerous [ __ ] it be different if it was like Survivor Basra or like Survivor Mogadishu he does that [ __ ] crazy survivor man survivor man probably does [ __ ] like that that dude went to Africa and he slept a night in Africa in this area where where lions live with a hot air balloon and his his idea was the idea for the show was if you were in a hot air balloon and it ran out of gas and it fell somewhere like what or the balloon got punctured or some [ __ ] and it fell somewhere and you were trapped how would you get by how would you get out of it so this guy went to [ __ ] Africa and that was all he had for shelter was the basket that this [ __ ] this supposed air balloon had and then the flamethrower to to make the the the balloon inflate and go up you know they had that sh the fire comes up and the heat is what makes the balloon rise and they drop it off when they want it to fall well he uh had that as well and he was using that to keep the Lions away blowing fire at them because when he would set it up on the ground it was like a flamethrower right cuz it's when when it's underneath the the balloon it's you know it's blowing this fire up into the inflated balloon but when it's on the ground he's just shooting it at the line and it's just him in one C it's just him and a camera him and a camera and some [ __ ] lions and you hear in the background you hear like yeah that's crazy but you know how that show's going to end right it's just going to end with like a still shot of like [ __ ] camera on the ground and people picking out his in well yeah I think what they do is they um they know where he is by GPS location and I guess he he probably has a satellite phone like if everything went terribly wrong and he had to call like if he breaks his leg or something like that he'll just die I mean they he has to get medical help so they'll they must have some sort of a plan but he's still his life is in danger every step of the way oh I mean when you see people that swim with sharks for example that's the part that I I say okay I I did that with like baby

sharks and with like sand sharks they have something at the Mall of America I went back with like my ex-girlfriend years and years and years ago it was cool but when I see people who swim with like 10 foot sharks 12 foot shark in like the wild you know where the shark doesn't know that you're a filmmaker it doesn't have any idea that this is for Discovery or anything else not a stunt shark right it's not a stunt shark and they never will they don't understand anything all they know is what's in front of them eat eat what's in front of them eat what's we eat what they're used to eating what they used to eating there are some people that have I don't know what it is I don't know what they're doing but they manage to not get killed I think if you get into the water a shark doesn't see you as prey as much is it sees you if you're on the top of the water I think the top of the water is a big danger because people look like seals that's one one one thing when you're down in the water I think you you're more of a weird curiosity you look like a swimming monkey in the water and oh good I get a snack it's it's hard to figure out probably what the [ __ ] you are you know I think animals that are that stupid they just sort of get by doing the same [ __ ] over and over and over again and for sharks it's like look for seals boom look for seals boom look for seals who what the [ __ ] is is this surfboard this tastes terrible you know this tastes like Arby's get this [ __ ] guy out of my mouth but if you like look at them man you look at their their black dead eyes and you look at their you know their body is just designed to just chew there's not a lot of thinking going on there we had this conversation earlier about what it means to be a hunter but wouldn't it be hunting really if you were like in a rowboat with like a harpoon going after one of them and not like you know in like a giant vessel shooting at them with High powerered rifle as if you were in a little boat you're going to die you're not going to beat a great white shark with a all right we're talking about you want to get extreme right now I don't mean like a any kind of shark no a shark that's big a tiger shark I guess maybe like a six-footer if you're really good with a spear you got to get like four or five of them but if he flips you in the water

man most likely you're [ __ ] depends on what kind of boat you're if you're in their element I think they got an advantage I mean that's a cheating thing anyway if you're in a boat you're cheating if you have if you have anything looking at you like drop all those weapons and just go flesh to FLH yeah you got but we don't have teeth like yig but we do have hands true yeah that doesn't they're going to eat the shark skin though is is when you feel it it when you rub it one way it's like completely rough and it'll cut your skin and then when you go from Back to Front it's completely absolutely silky smooth yo when we were little kids we had like a dissection program and the last uh the last thing that we did was like third grader or something but they cut open a shark and we had to take its kids out like its children and when you felt the shark they said watch and the the science teacher rubbed his hand nose to the back and his hand was cut open and he said that what the normal normal sharks do is they just swim through a school of fish and since their Skin's built like that whatever they touch they cut and then on the second loop around they can smell the blood or they can see one of the fishes that theyve cut and go through it but if you touch if you touch a shark normal from like you know back the front it's totally silky smooth boom wow that's weird why would it be silky smooth that way that seems strange like what benefit would that be they it's just like a jagged sort of thing I I I have no idea wonder if they can pull it in and pull it out you know maybe there must be some mechanism all I know is that hey man I don't want to get rubbed up on by them I don't want to pull I don't want them to pull anything in or pull anything out on me I didn't get it in the water with sharks plain simple I mean if you well there's a big issue now in Australia you know because they're culling the Sharks they're killing a lot of great whites because they've had so many people die recently they're just like enough is enough too many people are getting attacked by sharks like we got to kill some of these [ __ ] sharks and a lot of people think it's a bad idea those people are [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] no it's not a bad idea are the sharks killing people yeah well

you know it is there water wrong our planet suck it if there's a bunch of sharks out there that are killing people it's time to start killing sharks period anybody who want to argue is a [ __ ] anti-American and what if they I don't care if what's going on in Australia they support terrorism is that what goes on Joe kill a shark you're down with the Enemy that's the ultimate not the NSA that's not our Ultimate Enemy our Ultimate Enemy are [ __ ] sharks you know it's funny with all the [ __ ] that they listen to I'm always surprised that we still have all kidnapping serial killers you figured if they were tapping everybody's phone they could find anybody that they wanted yeah they would look at everybody's phone I just killed my seventh hooker LOL you know like look at this [ __ ] just texted his friend who knows dude someone someone's going to slip up oh well they most certainly have I'm I'm sure they've used it I mean if if it's been around as long as they say it's been around when you hear about the uh the actual coding of the NSA software and how they they first started doing it there was a guy the original n say whistleblower I should pull this guy up and give him his props because it's a pretty fascinating story because he was uh he was a whistleblower a long time ago and he was the guy that was responsible for making the software and he when he when he was making the software he was telling everybody like hey you can't use this to just spy on everybody so he started doing all these interviews um it was before Ed Edward Snowden so everybody everybody thinks of Edward Snowden as the original uh NSA whistleblower but there was another guy before that there was another guy in 2002 I believe he came out and uh yeah here it is Bill Binny and uh this [ __ ] guy told people about this a long time ago there's a story of it on YouTube on uh the RT America channel that's Bill beny b i n NE Y and uh he was a US intelligence official and he worked for the NSA and he turned into a whistleblower in uh October oober 31st 2001 after more than 30 years with the agency he was a high-profile critic of his former employers during the the George W Bush Administration and was subject to FBI investigations of course including a raid on his home of course

[ __ ] thugs where's he uh where's he doing time now he's not he's not doing time that's what's crazy where is because he called this before they did it whereas Edward Snowden called it while it was happening so Edward Snowden got in trouble this guy was predicting in the future and he was saying that when he found out that they were able to spy on everyone and that they were using this system uh the the system that was uh it was initially called Trailblazer and uh it was a a system intended to analyze data carried on Communications networks such as the internet and incl social networks yes and he found out that they were they were starting to do it on the they were starting to do it to everybody and he called it he said that's their plan their plan is to monitor every email every phone phone call and he said the guy you know he said look this is UN americ and the guy stuck his neck out there he got away with it though it's really interesting because he just predicted it and you know he wasn't actually talking about something that had happened but he got out of the NSA and said this is going on you know what's crazy for the first couple of years of me making music people used to call me a conspiracy theorist and I always used to laugh and I'd be like all right well let's play it down let's let's Encyclopedia Brown this [ __ ] right now and tell me what is conspiracy that the government spies on you I was right about that you know I released a record talking about how you know we're going to war for false reasons this is a false premise to be in war okay well we found out there no weapons of mass destruction I never said that Bush was directly responsible for 911 I said that I never believed the government's version because they couldn't even tell the truth about the air to breathe I always felt like the story was incomplete what's what's the conspiracy theory that's absolutely [ __ ] true now we find out that there they layers upon layers upon layers of what's going on in the world I said that the the government itself was involved in a drug trade in in Peruvian cocaine so people said oh my God how can you use this conspiracy theory really and now we find out that they protect certain Mexican cartels as long as they sell out to

other homies that the absolute truth of the drug game here in America is they don't go after the little fish to get the big fish you know what I mean they want the big fish so he can rat out all the little fish and they can all spend time in the jail because only the main dude has the $10 million attorney so I mean I don't blame this guy for just being fed up and saying hey man this is exactly what's going on or what's going to go on in the future I'm just surprised that somebody hasn't found a way to give him cancer or some [ __ ] and kill him off in a way that doesn't raise raise that much suspicion well like I said he did it so long ago before it ever became a public issue that he he quit in 2001 and that's when he started talking and doing all these interviews um you know what it is was it pre 911 2001 post 9911 is when he quit look the dude is essentially I mean he's a real Patriot that's what he is he's a guy who is working in the in the office of he's working for the defense of the country in the right way I mean that's what he's doing he's he he doesn't he wants there to be like laws he wants there to be protection of rights as well though he wants us to be able to go after terrorists but he doesn't think the government should be able to just willy-nilly look into everybody's [ __ ] emails shouldn't become a terrorist in the process of going after terrorists if you're torturing random people in order to do that then you are becoming the terrorist themselves and then there's no distinction really because one is is a hidden danger that people are terrified of and the other one is exactly the same thing a hidden danger that people are terrified from someone in power has says you know what I don't like this guy I don't like Rogan you know he's talking about the ATF that's my business you know what I want you guys to ruin his [ __ ] life I want you to go after him you know it well it's been proven that they do that with the IRS right they use the IRS to go after political enemies I mean there a lot of [ __ ] heads rolled because of that [ __ ] because it got public yeah we you people have this there's a lot of non-nonsense people out there that's the real issue there's a lot of people like H you believe in

Bigfoot H you believe in conspiracy theories what do you think the governments out to get you there's a lot of these people that like to pretend that it's foolish to think that the Govern govern is involved in anything shady ever that they're always above ground they have too much power whenever you get groups of people that have that much power when you have essentially the power to create laws the power to to go into to the the very laws that were established in the beginning of this nation and change them so that you can get away with [ __ ] that would ordinarily be illegal right like all those things are only done by people who have too much power they're not they're never things that people vote on nobody people never vote to give themselves less rights the people never vote to give more trust in the government the government just sort of takes it slowly but surely and the best way to take it is to tell you there's a bunch of enemies they have to protect you from it's it's a Timeless age-old trick and the idea that that's a conspiracy theory is ignoring all of human history from the jump everything ever done by people with guns swords or arrows right everything ever done was done with deception it was done by establishing enemies and protecting you from those enemies they're Timeless techniques the idea that the greatest government yeah that we would stop doing that in 2014 that after all they've learned after all these years they go you know what all that time tested [ __ ] we're going to set it aside and we're going to be ethical we're going to do we're going to be the ethical dominators world because Obama's in office now we're going to be ethical but there were people who believed in this fairy tale and I did it I wanted to I wanted I wanted that guy to get in and go got you [ __ ] right you know I was [ __ ] child of a single mom smoked weed I was there on I remember in Harlem when he was elected and it was like pandemonium I [ __ ] you not that it it just so happened that they were moving like a subway car a pretty big deal people usually don't see him in the street but they were moving a subway car via like a tractor trailer and they were moving it through 125th from one side to another and they had a

Jumbotron set up by like the state building and he gave his address and there were like 100,000 people in the street right there and they followed the procession of the subway every I saw an old lady get out of her car and start dancing you know what I mean and she was just like look and she she must have been like 80 years old and I was like Yo Ma you Grandma you she so happy she's like you know you got to understand I grew up in a time where people looked at me like I wasn't a [ __ ] human being you know what I mean and to see that I mean look I always discuss the these these variations of Oppression because people try to liken what happens to Africans and N to Native Americans to other struggles and other people being oppressed but you know what you you can't you no one ever tried to for example kill somebody else from another group because they knew how to read you know what I mean like these things were specifically done to a people to try and take away from the legitimacy that they have to to dehumanize because that's the only way to really do something that negative to someone you have to find some sort of different way to define them as a person so that then you can justify it not just to yourself but to other groups of people you know normal people won't be like hey man I'm just going to kill this person and take their land and their gold in their oil or whatever it is but now it's like oh my God no these people and the way they are are wicked and their wickedness is going to spread to the rest of us so much well we have belief systems man and belief systems once they're in place that they can be really scary you know if you have a belief system that this group that you're going after are all evil and God is on your side and they need to be smitten from the earth you have that God on your side that's the other one God on your side and that's what I think turns a lot of people off about religion it's not there's no personal respon as much as you know the the the right-wingers that are all religious scream about oh we want people in the ghetto to have personal why don't you take some personal responsibility you know don't don't put it on God put it on you you feel uncomfortable with this being this way or you you don't like these people for

some reason or maybe you've actually done the history and you know that these people have a legitimate reason to be unhappy with this government or know that they've been treated unfairly in some way shape or form and I think there's a difference between being an angry and having holy anger and having a righteous anger you know and being angry for a reason not just being upset and feeling like you're quote unquote the victim but technically looking at a situation and saying you no was treated unfairly and you know what I was taken advantage of and I think from the time that people have been a caveman to you know tomorrow all anger comes from being treated unfairly or the perception that you're treated unfairly anything lied to you treated me unfairly you told you told someone else the truth but you told me a lie you know you stole from me you treated me unfairly I let you into my house I protected you and you [ __ ] repaid Me by robbing me all of that comes back to it and I I just think that if this government is even going to survive it really has to address the amount of cynicism that exists in America right now because that was the whole point I thought of Obama coming in the idea that people were so cynical about a government under Bush that they saw McCain as an extension to that they were like oh my God again another one well who are we going to go to war with now but then when he came in he was supposed to be you know the the the great unifier but he turned into a great pacifier he was just like okay cool everything's going to be good I'm going to I'm going to intellectualize all of this and make it seem rational you know so I'll get away with a whole bunch of [ __ ] that if Mitt Romney had been elected or if McCain had been elected and done the exact same [ __ ] that he did they would have gone crazy they where are the people that were marching on Washington to go against the war where are they now that's why you know I I keep it real Rogan I do a lot of activism we did a show yesterday to raise money for people that were victims of that typhoon in the Philippines you know and it's going straight to them because we're working with Grassroots organizations but a lot of times when I see these big activist groups and they come up to me and I'm just like yo where

the [ __ ] are you now you know you were all waving your flag you know when it was the bush era but now that Obama's in power you don't want to make any waves you know now I see you people on MSNBC you're advocating a war in Syria you don't even know what the [ __ ] is going on there you know you don't know anything about the history of that struggle you don't know anything about about the the the the the idea of what's going to actually happen once they get attacked and they have to call their client I mean they're a client state of Russia they're a vassel of Russia now they basic sold themselves off because of the chemical weapons thing they said all right we'll give you the chemical weapons then you and the UN will deal with that personally it enables them to say all right we're going to be partners forever and ever as long as Russia exists Syria will be here and that's the deal that they had to make and there are plenty of people who made that deal with America as long as they exist man we'll be good but as soon as America is in danger guess what my ass is in danger too you know there are plenty of places like Guam America holds on to to Puerto Rico like its balls Israel I'll tell you right now Puerto Rico is one of the weirdest ones right because it's it's sort of a state but not really a state it's a commonwealth right it received it received a a charter of independence from Spain in like 1898 and literally the next year the USS main exploded but when people did research you know decades later they found out the ship imploded exploded from the inside and ironically here's another interesting tidbit or all of the white officers were on the land when the ship exploded and the only people on the ship were like the deck hands and the people of color and the [ __ ] are you implying that someone in the government blew up that chip sir cuz that shit's never happened before remember the USS main that's never even been planned there's a lot of people that feel that the Bush Administration had planned a false flag on Iran but that's false because the Bush Administration was awesome and if they did plan it it would have happened so you don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about they were perfect they had God on their side had God on their side

yo I swear to God there's so many times when I've seen people like when I go to colleges and there's some preacher dude like in front of the college arguing with the atheists and I always ask him I'm like Yo dude do you do you believe in the president he's like you I absolutely support you know President Bush I was like what what would he have to do to lose your support like what what what sort of things would he have to abuse could he kill someone and still gain your support you know and the guy was like well that depends who and I'm just like well wait a minute do what do you even depends who if he ordered the deaths of some people overseas who aren't Christians he's forgiven but if he like shot someone next door who he went to church with he should burn in hell forever I mean at at that point I think the selective morality is what bothers a lot of people about religion in general it's just like okay cool I'm only going to care about the lives certain human beings because they share this same belief system of mine but the moment that you don't then I feel so threatened by your existence that I don't care if your children live or die well you heard the the latest Revelations about the NSA that they were ordering drone strikes based on metadata they were ordering drone Stripes based on GPS location of phones that they were tracking so they they might not have even known that the guy that they were looking for was inside the building and they just randomly targeted buildings where these phones existed you know that's if that's true that means they just said okay well we're going to have to kill a whole bunch of [ __ ] people to get this phone so this phone that he may not even be heo hold my phone today man yeah uh the the whole thing here I'll pull it up cuz uh they were they did a story of it on um on RT yeah use of NSA metadata to find drone target kills that's crazy kill civilians they would find these I mean this is really hard to believe but they would find these people by the location of their phone and then send in the missiles Jesus that's that's evil [ __ ] man that's really evil [ __ ] and I know there's bad people in the world for sure but that is not in any way shape or form the way to handle it there's got to be a better way to kill

people Jesus Christ if there's bad people that you have to kill you can't just kill everybody around them that shit's crazy you'll turn everybody against you a well you're I'm against you we should all be against you it's murder You're a murderer you're you're just murdering people in a way that is sanctioned but you know what what strikes me about that is that this government has no problem doing that anyway they call it collateral damage they say okay you know what we have a we have a military Target it happens to be near a school you know what it that's collateral damage that anybody could even think about doing something like this though with the metadata that's like insane extreme collateral damage it's it's insane that's how they feel about it this is Glenn Glenn Greenwald uh is the guy who uh who put this out I like that guy I I like him too my friend Sam Harris hates his guts though why he thinks Sam Harris is uh anti-islam uh he's Sam Harris is a neuroscientist is an author and he's he's pretty strong proponent of atheism right and uh this guy gleen Greenwall thinks that he's uh got an anti-muslim uh agenda anti-islam agenda you know what's interesting I had this discussion with somebody about atheism and their way of dealing with um different cultures and societies you can totally be an atheist and be racist that that it's like being you know you could be a feminist and you could be racist that's ridiculous to think that those two things can't coexist in the same being my thing is this when I hear people like Darwin uh uh or sorry Richard Dawkins and people who are darwinists um have conversations what's interesting to me is the the the level of civilization that they'll attribute to like white Christian Society and even though they'll say it's barbaric it's still not as barbaric as those dark brown people's cultures because they're even more dangerous and my thing is this my thing is this it's like if someone says Allah Akbar before they go into war and that is the the The Benchmark to say that this is you know a religious killing then what about all the soldiers of America who say the Lord's prayer before they go into combat isn't that interpreted as oh man Jesus help me kill these [ __ ] really then you're

making a sacrifice then is Christ a blood God to you or is it a God of Peace that's the question that I have to ask and that is the part where you know when I speak to people who are atheists who don't believe in in theism and stuff like that you have to separate that from actual historians and people who have studied the history of religion and the history of different cultures and societies to say which one is more so-called civil to one another because I think we've Fallen to this idea of the Civilized Savage you know the idea that certain cultures brought civilization to other people nobody ever brought civilization to anybody civilization is the act of being civil to one another when you take somebody else's [ __ ] and then you say oh guess what you're going to use our way of doing things now rather than yours you didn't civilize anybody you just took them over and you enslaved them in a very polite way sometimes and sometimes in a not so very polite way cuz colonization is too nice of a word for rape genocide and [ __ ] yeah is it ever pop has anybody ever taken over our country nice it's always not so nice I mean the the the horrors that happened in this country alone when it's hard to believe that just a couple hundred years ago all this stuff wasn't here I mean a couple hundred years ago is nothing it's a blink of an eye and well that's what we used to get into arguments we may have talked about this on the first show when people were like oh you know the aliens had to help those people back in the day and I was like Yo dude if they helped them you know for the over the course of 10,000 years build a pyramid then maybe they helped you because about 200 years ago you were driving a horse in carriage and now you got a Rover on Mars so you got a little boost too from the aliens buddy you know what I mean I I think that that it's just ridiculous to assume one culture had communication and one culture couldn't possibly have if they' been here didn't they' been here the whole kind well if if it is possible that we were ever visited by aliens who knows maybe it takes a long [ __ ] time to get here maybe they can only come here once or twice in a a generation ever I don't know they set up shop here dude they but if that's but if that's the case wouldn't there be levels of

aliens just like there's levels of human civilization like human civilization goes from having a a horse and buggy to having a car to having an airplane wouldn't alien civilization go from there too maybe some of them reach us and these are like the real ghetto aliens that are barely getting their [ __ ] together out there in the world they're not they don't have any [ __ ] free comes like what are you doing very sketchy science they [ __ ] blow up sometimes those are the guys who C at Roswell they're like they're more advanced than us but they're still kind of [ __ ] up and then there's dudes that are so far advanced than them that they make them look like cave people and these people don't no longer have bodies and they travel interdimensionally and they you know they exist in the that's what that's what I think be too like there's no saying like what dimension they're in you know what I mean or how our eyes are calibrated what we are what we can or can't see well I I used to be real attracted to the idea that aliens came and helped people I was very very attracted to the idea and I'm still attracted to it cuz I think it'd be insanely fascinating because it really follows what human beings would do if we if we were super Advanced and we came to a planet we found some primitive life forms for sure we would drop off some of our [ __ ] jizz we would definitely give them some of our DNA we're gross we thought we could you know Touch This World in some way decided to do that to Mars dud he did [ __ ] the Avatar didn't he yes well that big blue cat think about what we're talking about doing to Mars is that beastiality hold on that's inter species let's ask the people it's not beastality cuz they talk it's just you're [ __ ] an alien no no it's not Beast no no it's inter species it's not beastiality is it who the [ __ ] aliens she humanoid [ __ ] beast we're calling her an animal we don't know what her fin she's not an animal she talks she we established that [ __ ] back in Star Trek when Kirk [ __ ] that green chick remember that Jesus Christ that was it that's it's precedent it's legal presedent she didn't have a the girl didn't have a tail I don't give a [ __ ] dude she had like a nose like a cat dude was hot you would [ __ ] her I'd [ __ ] that Avatar [ __ ] by the end of the movie I

respect that yeah by the end of the movie I wanted to live I wanted to live with the na'vi be in the trees I wanted to be camping and shooting arrows and flying Beast so we we've taken concessions on JRE that [ __ ] a a a 10 foot tall cat [ __ ] is not beastiality what about the Planet of the Apes when they cut the scene they were supposed to be the Marky Mark version joint it's supposed to be a scene where he was having sex with thee yeah dude they filmed it what and was saying is it beasty I like is is is it wrong to be inter species you know what I'm saying yeah listen I think it's okay to [ __ ] hot aliens I'm going to say it right now if a hot alien comes to visit me in the middle of the night if I get away with it I'm going to [ __ ] her I respect that I'm not mad at that what what if it's not a her then very uncomfortable but what if their he's look like hers like he tosy Turvy World down under man what if the int everything was perfect right except that she had a really deep voice like SM I [ __ ] a few smokers in my day really got AC a hot chick with a big an voice that just ready to take you under the wing I'll I'll I'll take care of it she's hot I'll deal with it I'm totally pulling never talk to her on the phone my thoughts yeah my thoughts on Aliens Vision with people though that people don't really understand how long 100 years is we think of like 400 years ago as being like wow 400 years ago you know back then they didn't have cameras back then they didn't have automobiles everybody rode horses and then 400 years before that and 400 years before that you stop and think about what you're talking about with Egypt you're talking about a culture that existed for thousands of years thousands thousands of years and they obviously were smart as [ __ ] they wrote down a lot of [ __ ] just what they left behind forget about what was found during the burning of the Library of Alexandria I mean they when they found that they they destroyed all these like ancient records and all this information about how they did their their construct I mean who knows what the [ __ ] was in there when they burnt all that stuff but what they left behind yeah what they yes it was what they left behind though

carved in the stones is magnificent [ __ ] I mean the all their hieroglyphs the the the beautiful works of art they left behind like the Symmetry to their buildings and the mathematics of their construction it's so obvious they were super super advanced people like they were really Advanced and we just think of that as being like who there's no way Aliens Must did it no it's real possible that a human race a human culture can get super Advanced and [ __ ] it all up and it could be [ __ ] up by disease and it could be [ __ ] up by asteroids and it could be [ __ ] up by other humans invading them which would happen to Egypt they got invaded by the Nubians and the Nubians took older that's why the the older Pharaoh the the more recent pharaohs all had black African faces like the Pharaoh on the face of the Sphinx is a very distinctly different face than some of the more spartic uh pharaohs that you saw like in the early days and and the other thing is this that Egypt initially began um as a society that Rose from other places you know what I mean there were other civilizations that predated it such as Sumeria things of that nature and when you look at it yes of course they could have easily took from those civilizations as well we took from other civilizations from from tribes and from other people I mean our constitution itself is based on an iroy Confederacy something that people don't really realize or pay attention to that yes we didn't just get corn from indigenous people we got this idea that different places could be under the same federal state but still guess what have laws of their own that are respected by the federal government or forceful that that they're forced to respect because these are different tribes and these tribes are not going to tolerate you telling them how to live however we will combine forces for the survivability of all of us together as opposed to individual tribes wasn't that the whole forming of the Constitution as well I mean didn't they get the ideas in the Constitution from studying the the great um the great civilizations of the past like Rome and Greece and all their ideal about how Society should be put together and use those ideas in a lot of ways to formulate the Constitution well I mean Napoleon civil code also

influenced a lot of Western societies go the Europe's legal system now but I I think you know when we talk about whether it's aliens or whether it's anybody that interferes in in a human society you want to think that what would their agenda be what do they want what could they possibly have to gain for all of it resources land I mean if you read the Bible it says that you know the the the the sons of Heaven made it with the daughters of men you know who's to say that's Angels maybe that's aliens who came down to [ __ ] a woman it's absolutely possible that it did happen I know people don't like to hear that they like oh great you believe in aliens that's not even what I'm saying I'm saying it's absolutely possible because this [ __ ] thing is so big it's so big the idea that we've never been visited before is silly but if we pay attention to the way we treat the things on this planet that we can control and we think about how the [ __ ] they would deal with us we should be probably pretty happy that it is [ __ ] because if they're anything like us I would I wouldn't put it past them creating us out of monkeys I wouldn't put it past some super Advanced alien species look at some stupid chimps and go look at these dumb [ __ ] let's take some of our [ __ ] and put it into them then come back in a thousand years oh my God they got planes and buildings and who who knows it is possible that that happened it sounds quite ridiculous don't worry I I know that and I know it sounds yeah but I'm not saying it's impossible I'm not saying it's likely it's certainly there's there is a chance that this planet has been visited before just the fact that we can go to Mars with a drone we know that we sent these manned uh Vehicles into space we know that there's satellites in orbit we've used the space shuttle we've used Rockets there there's without a doubt a a Rover that's moving around on the Mars right now there's a Rover moving around on Mars we sent it from this planet we're monkeys I mean we we're a couple hundred years removed from slavery in this country we just came up with the internet 20 years ago we already have a robot moving around on Mars if there's something else out there that's 100 years a thousand years more advanced than us if they haven't blown themselves up for sure they would send

some [ __ ] our way and if they came here a long long ass time ago the universe is 13 whatever billion years old allegedly Earth is only 4.6 billion years old I mean that's there's a hell of a long time that's a long time window that leaves nine [ __ ] billion plus years that someone else could have been in a much more stable solar system developed a civilization that's not based on Dominator culture EMP figured out during that time they might have had a completely psychedelic culture like from the jump they were eating mushrooms never got out of it they might live in the tropical climate like the whole planet might be a stable tropical climate where they're consistently engaging in mushroom use and they they developed the ability to read each other's minds like a [ __ ] thousand years into their civilization and they just been rocking it freestyle since then and here they are 10 billion years older than you know this planet but if we are like a downgraded version of humans then human humans like 4.0 must be really frightening creatures something that can like look into your mind and see you control things with their head and the people who don't necessarily believe this but who won't even subscribe to the possibility these are the same people that think that laws hold our country together rather than the Iron Fist of a talking monkey well there there's holds this [ __ ] together me I will destroy you if you break these things that I've written down about the N whistleblower the [ __ ] FBI breaks into his house get on the floor traitor I heard a word to that what you talk um there's a woman named Dr Carolyn mace and she has her talking about the evolution of the species and uh she says that there her theory is that we're all Homo erectus because we walk up right but there's also different people on this planet that are called homon noeticus meaning that they have more than just the five senses that people have so we're not all the same species some people are more devolved or evolved than others so you can't say that though man people accuse you of racism what no you can't say that you can't say that there some people are just Dumber different species of people meaning that you could you know how sometimes you could just think of a friend and they'll

call you about it's just there's no term to it's not it's not so much dependent on the ideas of compartmentalizing people in the way we do in terms of race or in terms of religion it wouldn't be like to say that one person of this color or this Creed would have been smarter it would have been a specific individual that's born within that line either it could be here in America it could be in Mexico it could be in Nigeria or Scandinavia somewhere but for example there are types of intelligences that we really do appreciate in this country we look at science and math and we say oh man you're really smart you know you're going to be a [ __ ] engineer but people don't appre appreciate social intelligence emotional intelligence you know imagine somebody that's able to come into a room and they look at you and they like you know what Joe Joe walks different today that means he's sad you know what I mean or you know he he's worried about something or you know when he's when he's checks his phone a lot he only he only interrupts the podcast to speak to his CH child or something so something must be wrong at home people who pick up on those things it's it's it's incredibly it's not like female intuition that sex is [ __ ] it's the idea that people in general male female whatever some some of them are just more in touch with the idea of giving a [ __ ] about how the people around them exist and therefore they're just a more I wouldn't say a more considerate human being but they have more emotional intellig they pay more attention to to developing that on musical intelligence for example people could say all right I hear a note that's a G sharp now I'm going to create a whole song around it and it's already finished in my head that's musical genius physical intelligence people who say you know you you MMA [ __ ] God damn it that's physical intelligence anyone who's got a fight in the ring and and calibrate an exact Punch or know how to move somebody or to to step them in this direction other that's an incredible physical genius that they have to possess in order to carry on something like that and not get knocked the [ __ ] out by someone swinging on you as hard as they possibly can but only certain intelligences are valued in this country and in the world in terms of human

society as opposed to delving into what they would really be if we took them each at not just face value but what they represent for our human culture you know some I I know that's why some people [ __ ] with animals more than they [ __ ] with people I know people that they're like oh I love my dog why can't you love a dog more than a person sometimes a dog is more a human being than a human you know you got a homeless person in the street who's crying most people will walk right by him you put your dog next to a homeless person who's [ __ ] in tears somehow I've seen it a dog that doesn't like nobody will go over there like hey man like kind of look at you like sad like why are you sad why are you hurt who the [ __ ] would do that as a normal person we're trained to ignore that whereas something like a dog is trained to say hey man no no some someone's in pain that's not right as if to say I wish I could help you if I wasn't trapped in this [ __ ] body you know what happens when people start really paying attention to a lot of homeless people and hanging out with them oh Jesus you realize they're [ __ ] crazy and if you bring those [ __ ] into your life your life's going to be chaos can we take that crazy crying lady underneath bridge and say come on come on over my house Doug stanh hope used to do that you know what happened Doug St yeah [ __ ] they got a knife fight in his [ __ ] driveway uh the woman stabbed her boyfriend yeah Doug used to let him he had a front law he lived in uh nobody's saying you got to breastfeed him I'm just saying that you I know what you're saying I know what you're saying it's it's a very romanticized ideal though the reality is you want to go out there and [ __ ] bring homeless people in your life every day you only got 24 hours in a [ __ ] day fill your life up with [ __ ] they're EAS they screaming and crying they got no soap look get your own [ __ ] [ __ ] together or you're crazy it's one of those two and if you if you're crazy that's the real issue that when the Reagan Administration was here they they changed the laws they changed the the standards as far as like taking people that you had to take care of and they let a lot of people out of Mental Hospitals that were they were infirmed for life and they got them out and then

these people were just like free you're free you're on your own you can take care of yourself but then again when we think about it then let's take that then then let's not make it romanticized and idealized if these people are sick if they have a disease then shouldn't they be taken care of shouldn't they be in a hospital right no question no question like if someone had [ __ ] pneumonia and they were lying on a [ __ ] highway some you call the ambulance they would come get them somebody sitting there they're schizophrenic you know what I mean or they have multiple personality disorder they're more liable to to to hurt themselves you they're danger to themselves and to other people those people need to be taken care of for example I look at that the way I look at drug addiction those people don't belong in prison for 40 or 50 years they obviously need treatment they need to be fixed but we only give a [ __ ] when it's a Philip Seymour hofman that that dies and then you know where are the rest of the heroin addicts you know I I went off on Twitter the other day because I was like Yo dude you know the NYPD is investigating who sold him the hot dose really you know I know lots of people I've known through my life that either almost died or died of a damn heroin overdose or some kind of drug overdose the NYPD didn't go meticulously looking for the specific dealer you know where the heroin's coming from homie I told them you can first stop you need to do is Afghanistan that's where it's coming from and the poppy fields are being protected by our troops because the Warlords that we want to stay in power that are willing to give us access are the ones that need the money so we allow them to grow the poppy and we disallow the Taliban supporters to but listen don't bring any homeless people in your house trust me I know what you're saying it all makes sense but you got to trust me on this man comedy don't want them coming into your house they don't even know what toilet paper is dude it's the whole thing you can't fix everybody you can't fix everybody not this close to Valentine you got to know who to fix and who not to you can't be Captain Sao you can't you can't be that guy out there trying to fix the world be nice to everybody the problem is the the really

[ __ ] crazy people you're not going to fix you could you could work all day every day for the rest of your life and you wouldn't put a debt in that [ __ ] and I think that they have to someone it's a Hallmark of our society quick question do you think those people started that way or do you think it was the things that happened to them within the course of their life more often that makes them that way you would be crazy to assume either or you're you know no one has any idea what the background of a lot of those people are other than the people that have treated them in the past they probably don't even know what the [ __ ] happened to them there's a lot of really sick people out there that just happen to be homeless people because we can't we we can't classify them as insane enough to you know institutionalize not not then to be crazy enough to try to Define it but wouldn't you think that the majority of these cases of people who had extreme trauma of some sort as a child I would imagine yeah I would imagine well you know people that I've met that have been homeless I've met I knew quite a few people that were homeless at at least stages of their life from uh the time when I used to hang out in pool halls um one of my best friends was homeless for a long period of time when I was a struggling comedian my friend Johnny was a pool Hustler a legit 100% pool Hustler and a drug addict but the pool Hustler thing is how he got by he was an extraordinary pool player and he would pretend to suck and he would he would go to places and he was a fast talker and he was a slick dude and he got a big thrill out of tricking guys into playing him and then you know he would like lose a little then complain and then they would start talking [ __ ] and calling him fat and all this different and then he would slowly start playing better and then like make it real emotional with the guy and like he would get thousands of dollars out of people and a lot of it was psychological he just knew how to play people he had social intelligence emotional intelligence yeah social intelligence and emotional intelligence he had both but he was homeless a good portion of the time like sometimes he would come stay at my house this [ __ ] hadn't slept in days except under pool tables and he would just

conon out like he got shot with a tranquilizer dart and just sleep for like he slept in my house for two solid days straight once because he was just burning it best sleep of his life probably yeah man the dude the poor dude was just out there and you know and he had issues himself he had a lot of mental health issues himself and I think that there's a lot of people out there that are homeless that have uh mental health issues I think that's the majority of of a lot of the cases I think a lot of the homeless people that have mental health issues and what's sad is that you know especially when you find people who are supposed to be cared for by this government and it goes back to what we were talking about before imagine the veterans that are homeless out there who have Paid Dues and risked their lives for this country and they're completely looked over and you would think the people who say that they love America so much wouldn't be the ones that are beding eating it dry but ironically it's the people that are criticizing this country for the things it does wrong that love it the most why because we want to fix the things that are wrong as opposed to people that say hey we just love America and anything you say against America is wrong no that's not the case because the people who usually say that are the ones that are bleeding this country dry by saying oh man I love America you know I want to destroy unions unions are destroying you know what I want to stop workers from doing this dude you're not doing it because you love America you money you know if you really loved America how come you got a goddamn plant overseas you know you could be not making you know 10 billion you could be making 7 billion a year but you would be feeding 10 times more people you know here in America they would never do that billion is a big number I don't know what kind of country you live in sir but that's what I'm talking about taxes my 3 billion pays for social programs cleaning the streets who do you want to build these Bridges son that extra three billion is important right only that they're not going to pay it in taxes either so it's not like it's going to go to anything oh that's right they weasel that [ __ ] yeah I mean come on the NFL is like a charity a

Char come on that's one of the funniest things of all time the NFL is taxfree is it team by team though do they tax the team dude the whole thing is a charity organization oh please yeah I thought I thought it was [ __ ] NFL the biggest sports franchise in the world the UFC needs to get on that I don't know what the [ __ ] Dana White's waiting for we need to be taxfree we need the UFC should how the [ __ ] are you going to give the charity it should be a charity that's what I'm saying loophole [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] you imagine if the UFC tried to become tax free you know who else was like that oh my God the NHL they're taxfree too y get the [ __ ] out of here NHL that is hilarious NBA that is about they got to pay too many black people they got to pay we're not happy about this 99% black people God damn it make them pay taxes that means baseball they got to pay too too many Latinos too many Latinos these [ __ ] coming over here throwing heat give me that money [ __ ] give me give me that [ __ ] money yeah taxes man the the people that don't have to pay taxes is a real goddamn mindblower it's like how does that get determined and like religions that make money like religions like say Scientology Scientology is a taxfree organization taxfree organization that was written by a science fiction writer who was yeah who publicly stated that the best way to make a lot of money is to start your own religion and then and he got taxfree that guy got tax free you know what's funny when I got out of prison I went to try to find a job in all these places and everyone said no to me and then there was this one ad that was like come learn the secret to life and get paid while doing it and it was like a $12 an hour job in like 1999 when I just made parole and they were advertising like please please come to this area you know you can learn and and I walked in and it was a Scientology Center of and I I walked in the lady was super nice they're all the most polite people in the world no no they wanted to [ __ ] s they they just they literally just brought me in they they shoved me in front of a screen with like four or five other people and they played me like a Scientology video and then they were they they asked us they were like did you all understand the truth in this

video and I was I was sitting here and I was just like yo I really wanted to be like what the [ __ ] is wrong with you like No One Believes this [ __ ] but at the same time I sat back and I said you know what I really don't understand this religion enough for me to make a commitment about it right now and they were very polite to me they like thank you very much for your time sir take care and there was somebody else in there who really needed that [ __ ] job and they just looked at me and they were they gave me this kind of look like cool cool you're not in the running anymore they were like I was touched I just swear to God you I could see the charlon and the snake oil coming out of the side of their jacket dude they were like I was touched by this video like I really thought it was amaz the dude they there to get job yo that was it Joe you you might be right about this racist [ __ ] by the way because the only other ones that don't have to pay taxes the the the golf league the PGA and the NHL the golf league who are all the owners all the owners of the NFL though that is [ __ ] creepy NBA should be pissed the golf guys don't have to pay taxes like the most money right wow that's dark that's some dark [ __ ] dark racism wow I think it's racism I'm crying racism for the NBA and I don't even watch basketball yeah the the the idea that you could get away with the Scientology thing that that could be we need to start our own [ __ ] religion that's what you need to do God damn it that's how you're really godamn it that's how you really lock things down that's the quote right there we need to start our own religion God damn it well they they have so much money that they they can get away with it like Scientology is the number two land owner in Los Angeles they own more buildings and property and real estate in Los Angeles than like almost anybody the freak the freakiest thing is you know how they rope off everything at a Time Square when when the ball is going to drop or whatever yeah and there's a certain time you can't go past the barricades one night I was there and a guy said why are you a member of the chur Scientology and I said yeah and he let me in through the bar through the barricade real story dude real story he

probably just wanted to [ __ ] you what what that was the way he got close to what like man know you're a handsome guy got a nice the interes conversation listen man I know how to take a Cod podcast sh loses entertainment right out of J you got to [ __ ] press a button you got to keep the ball moving wow what is the wow what are you supposed to say amazing he probably loved you dude's a Scientologist trying to make friends he it was a police officer too that's hilarious well they might might had some sort of a deal maybe they pay off the cops get get through the line I think that's the only way that's the only way you really do get anything done I think a lot for a lot of companies and corporations they just pay off whoever it is that's in charge well the only reason why people aren't investigating Scientology in this country but yet they are in other countries it's got to be just how much money they have that's the only thing that makes sense because if there's a new group that came out of nowhere and they they hadn't you know had all this history of owning all these buildings and and you you found out like that they developed this religion based on the scientific or a science fiction authors writings and you would read it and go wait a minute what the [ __ ] what is these meters you hold on to these these aluminum cans and they they tell me your personality get the [ __ ] out of here that's not real they would be shut down you would think that they would be run out of town well I mean someone else could tell you hey this cracker is really the Flesh of you know a Hebrew zombie you know I mean someone could put it in that way and you would feel ridiculous as long as it's old we're cool with it no but that's what I mean as long as it's through a certain period of time look I I have a great respect for people who I've seen use religion to make them a better person when I see someone become more pretentious more judgmental more like I have all the answers and unless you believe in exactly what I believe then you're going to go to damnation that's when I see religion as like a destructive thing that ends up ruining people's lives but when I see people that honestly just

take it and I think that's the thing with a lot with a lot of religions as long as the Canon can be as ridiculous as it's going to be you know people will believe Preposterous things all of them ask you to believe something Preposterous you know the the ocean is divided you know of Muhammad ascended into heaven you know what I mean or or you know Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and then died and came back to life and yet when you look at people's lives you know some people's lives are Preposterous you know there was a there was a family my friend was staying in doing a photo project down in Brazil and he was down there and he was like you know there's AO there two holes in the floor one hole is in the bathroom where everyone goes to the bathroom and the other hole is like literally right next door and they put like a a bucket down there to catch shrimp and I'm like wait a minute so where is it like in a different River or something like nah it's the same water and I'm like really like yeah definitely it's the same exact water and he's like you have to understand that's the only way they're going to eat anything that day is to fish for shrimp in that [ __ ] water and that's preposterous to me for you and I to look at that and be like oh man you know who in in this room would imagine you know I'm going to put my hand in the toilet to pick out my dinner tomorrow but that is the absolute reality that people who are living in those type of dire conditions CU if they don't eat that they're not going to [ __ ] eat that's why I'm honestly not offended if somebody you know steals somethingone I'm in some third world country I mean not that I like that [ __ ] but yo you're taking something because you're going to die if you don't sell it to eat and [ __ ] are just stealing you know rebok pumps cuz they want to look [ __ ] cool like you're a sucker my [ __ ] the only person I know that's ever actually started a religion is Alex Gray Alex Gray is the Visionary artist I don't know if you ever seen his work but everything he does is these psychedelic portraits they they're like uh these really intense like uh multicolored they look like dimethyl tryptamine trips it's all like uh like iasa trips or mushroom trips and all of his art this is his stuff people coming out of people yeah

this is this is all of his stuff well he's he's created his not only has he created his own religion but he got tax-free status oh Jesus and uh his city is trying to uh to fight it they still want him to pay taxes I think I don't know if he ever worked that out but he's actually trying to do it in a in a really like positive healthy way he's not trying to make money off people or own people or give you a bunch of rules that you have to follow he's just essentially he's a a guy who really believes that psychedelics or a connection to the true God of the universe love and God and and you know the the energy that exists when you have these uh these powerful transformative psychedelic experiences so he um he's building this thing in Upstate New York uh he came on and showed me and Brian his uh his uh Community he's putting together up there but he's got this uh huge building that he's making that he came on our podcast and did a Kickstarter for it and raised the money like in no time it was amazing the people from this podcast [ __ ] represented like in as positive a strong way as was humanly possible and a whole bunch of people supported this and he he got all his funding and he's building this incredible Building look at this thing look it up Tech it's on the other one behind in front of you too that this is going to be this is going to be his church yeah it's all based on his artwork and uh it's like probably going to be one of the most beautiful buildings in the world and where is he going to build this thing in Upstate New York he has like uh he has a yeah he has like a a temple in that belongs in like a jungle in Colombia or some [ __ ] you know on top of a mountain or something met I've met the dude several times and he is the real deal he really is a beautiful person he's all full of love the guy's like so loving and happy and friendly he's not evil in any way shape or form and he just wants to promote those those ideas and promote art and and and promote love I mean you couldn't ask for a better guy trying to create his own religion but what he's trying to do is you just Influence People in a very positive way but you know what Joe it's usually never the guy who creates it all right it's always the inheritor

it's always the inheritor whoever the [ __ ] takes this [ __ ] over is going to be like listen you know in order for you to really get the Psychedelic experience suck my dick right some crazy [ __ ] you know what I mean youal you need to let me father children with everyone's wife here just they all do that right eventually it's too hard to hot girls walking around they love you so much because you're the Messiah damn I want to hit that God this [ __ ] husband or hers is just [ __ ] up my flow God yeah well that's just human nature man I mean that's obviously the issue with priests telling them they can't have sex you know you create monsters you create monsters when you suppress there's no way around it if you if you suppress energy finds a way through in another way I really want to do some in-depth research on when that started happening because in the early Orthodox um church people who were um officials of the church were allowed to have wives they were allowed to have a dispensation they were allowed to get married they got married by the Pope I mean the pope had children I mean I think at some point people looked at it probably in the Middle Ages where people got real Pious and you know when you examine the the the the changing of Christianity you find specific points where it becomes you know from that time where people are completely nonviolent to becoming structured to be a violent Society you know people say oh well who who whose writings are those I always said it was St Augustine and then it makes sense cuz he dies in The Siege of Hippo Regis during that particular time you know the Eastern Roman Empire was trying to eradicate something called aryanism which is the idea that the the father is superior to the son in other words the father created the son and therefore the son was inferior to the father as he was a creation the the people of the church hated this idea and so they overthrew all of the Germanic kingdoms that inherited the Western Roman Empire in order to to to impose their idea of what Christianity would be which if you think about it would make that the First Crusade ever in terms of Christianity celibacy this this is where uh it starts out celibacy the first mandate requiring

priests to be celibate came in 304 ad Jesus so the year 304 Canon 33 of the Council of Alvira that is some Harry Potter [ __ ] stated that all Bishops prors and deacons and all other clerics were to abstain completely from their wives and not to have children wow a short time later in 326 the Council of nissia Y convened by Constantine rejected a ban of priests marrying requested by Spanish clerics wow this is fantastic so they just decided they were slinging too much dick that's the only way around it that's exactly what was going on there's no they had too much power there was no rock stars back then you had poets and by the way when you're dealing with 3,000 you know I mean 304 rather there was no one was reading the Bible they didn't figure out how to read the Bible until till uh till Martin Luther came along and translated it into a phonetic language that was when most people I'm trying to think when did they before it was Latin the first time it was translated into Germanic was I believe in the 4th Century by a priest called WF and when I I look at the actual extension of where it is a lot of people were really illiterate in the first place in the way that they learned to read um in Greece and in Rome was actually by reading the Bible and reading the actual scripture and saying oh it would be the way someone would read a kid's book these days only you're not reading a kids book you're reading what you're going to be indoctrinated into for the rest of your entire life in other words that's the first book and the last book you're going to read probably if you're sitting in there and you're a peasant in the middle of nowhere in the Middle Ages it says that Germanic language translations of the Bible have existed since the Middle Ages and uh the most influential is Luther's translation and that the Martin Luther translations I believe that was in the 1500s or something like that there's a a great Hardcore History podcast on that called uh something Thor Thor Thor's find find the name of that I forget what it is but it's all about Martin Luther translating the Bible into a phonetic language yeah they couldn't read it so back then when a a priest was the only direct connection to God he was the only guy that was able to tell you the word

of God he was here it is Thor Angels here it is this is uh the gothic Bible or the waill Bible Christian Bible as translated by the waill in the fourth Century into the gothic language spoken by the Eastern Germanic peoples or the gothic tribes meaning the inheritors of the Roman State as Rome fell in uh 410 and then of course I think in 455 and then finally um what was the last 476 and back then the Germans were a totally different like the the the whole country of Germany there was so many barbarians there was big [ __ ] powerful scary dudes but this is this is this is the interesting point what makes them a barbarian that they weren't with Rome if anything wasn't Rome the most barbaric out of all them well I mean when I say Barbarian I mean like Conan and the Barbarian I mean there big giant [ __ ] who ate meat and drank milk that was like primary Staples of their diet they had a massive amount of protein but the the protein content of their diet is why they were so big they were enormous people I don't think they did a whole lot of farming because it's cold as [ __ ] up there so they're they're they're eating you know a lot of animal protein and they were apparently they were enormous in comparison to a lot of the people that would encounter them like that was like the first depictions from China I believe of encountering German people they were like holy [ __ ] are these [ __ ] people big you know they were just enormous Savage people you know well I mean the I don't know I'm sure that there were some sort of human sacrifice here and there oh [ __ ] yeah the thing is that everybody did that when that [ __ ] was standard when you look at their the tribal societies though I really would like to to sit down and examine what the the the process was for them in in their societies as opposed to when they were romanized you know because that that people living in in like some mud hut in the middle of Germany I'm sure they they had some different idea uh of controlling themselves and and and terraining in similar to the way Native American people don't didn't ever had a prison you know what I mean where the [ __ ] did you put the people that did bad things well you just had to fix them or put them on sticks somebody had to be fixed

cut theirs off someone had to be fixed yeah or kill them I think they probably killed a lot of people too that's the thing I mean it depends on what what Society you want to imagine I mean I remember I watched the movie 300 right and it was like oh man they seem they make these Persians seem like the wickedest people but when you look at it what were the Greeks doing they were practicing infanticide it was still a monarchy Sparta still had slaves like a [ __ ] well I give the movie 300 a lot of creative freedom because it was based on a graphic novel and it's obviously got a lot of mythical qualities I I know I I don't have I I'll go see that movie I loved it but to me it's a comic book right um the real problem with making a movie about Spartans is you're going to have to have a bunch of dudes [ __ ] each other okay if you're going to do it right you want to do it right you got to do a historically accurate movie when he was like oh those Athenian boy lovers and I was like wait a minute hold on dude you're from Sparta dude you're in the gymnasium which means like naked in Greek or something so of course there was a lot of man [ __ ] going on but it was normal I mean I'm I'm not saying that they should do it because it would you know somehow or another discredit them but it is historical fact that the people that lived back then engaged in much more homosexual activities than we think of today in that particular are yeah in that particular the Greeks and the Romans and the Spartans and all those [ __ ] Savages they were banging each other they always were and it was a part of life it was a normal thing and men having boys for lovers and like that was like I mean how many philosophers had hey that's not real it's not Spartan that's your boyfriend [ __ ] son of a [ __ ] who put that he put some gay guy up don't do it again you f put it put it down that's it's not not it's not you know I mean how is that well you're talking about murderers and and and warmongers you're talking about people that constantly engaged in the slaughter of people like why would it somehow or another discredit them if they had gay sex like who gives a [ __ ] but it is the reality the reality is like this this picture that's a real depiction of a real Gladiator and a real young boy and

cuz that [ __ ] was like super common some people thought in that particular age that the only true love that could exist was between a man and a young boy that's unfortunately how that Society chose to I mean you know that in other words has been used in a lot of times I've seen to taint the um the arguments that are made for for for gay rights when people say oh well now they're going to want children that that has absolutely nothing to do with that that's a different complete era of time in which people didn't have adulthood defined the way do now and I think that's the problem that that engages and I'm not being an apologist or excusing it it's just that when let's say that this the year 1200 you know you become an adult not when you're hit 18 years old you know most people die when they were like 30 so if you're 18 you're damn near like the equivalent of like a being middle-aged man but if you think about it during that particular how dare you spart hey hey hey that's not where you're supposed to put that put down your rock real quick yeah my God this is called back Mount you see how one of them is muscular and the other one is not broke back GRE you see that look close in on the guy on the bottom even back then they had tops and bottoms because there like one dude who just clearly is the one who's going to get [ __ ] every time and the other dude is going to do all the [ __ ] see look at the guy on the bottom he's all smooth and [ __ ] doesn't look he does his situps doesn't do his squats the guy on top is very RI the the guy on the bottom is kind of doughy the other guy on the bottom getting ripped too he gets tired he gets tired easy the guy in the bottom needs a lot of naps Mano but you couldn't have a movie like that if you had a movie like that where you showed the true lives of the SP be able to deal with it yeah but did they have a lot of gay sex in that movie no not Troy Alexander I mean Al it was gay because Colin frell was it was the the lead him and whatever the other dude was in but let me ask you something in MMA where like you have your balls in someone else's face and they're on the ground are you allowed to talk [ __ ] are

you allowed to talk [ __ ] like that absolutely you suck my dick when you're on the floor yeah you if you want to [ __ ] with a guy's head you could definitely do that as long as people do a lot of that [ __ ] oh yeah there's some dudes Nick Diaz talks mad [ __ ] during every one of his fights every one of his fights you stand in front of people going what [ __ ] what [ __ ] boom and then it pops you I'm [ __ ] you up [ __ ] like he'll talk [ __ ] to you while he's F no I don't mean that white frat boy swag [ __ ] that they P right before I just mean like Nick Diaz is Mexican first of all no no no but I'm just saying I I know I picked that up on it when the Diaz came out I'm just saying you know that's just what I hear oh what's up [ __ ] let's do this right now like oh officer you know that man accosted that's the what I see all the time with schools when I when I used to Wild out my my thing is this though you're not talking officer we're talking about an MMA fight we're talking about but I mean in terms in terms of the sexual portion of it oh yeah I'm sure guys do I'm sure guys [ __ ] with guys look if someone's going to [ __ ] with you and try to get inside your head they're going to try to do it by any means necessary whatever words they can use's no limit on that like for example other sports they have a limit to what they can say and then they're like oh no this is like too like didn't they get in trouble on some [ __ ] in the NBA where they were talking about somebody else's wife or you're only allowed to say certain things you're talking about somebody else's kids in your ear like for example in in in certain soccer leagues you're not allowed to mention somebody's family or talk about racism like when you're in a scrum I know that football players are notorious for that for saying the darkest most evil [ __ ] to someone on another team I'm going to rape your baby some dude you got a be beautiful kid I'm GNA [ __ ] its face right after I pound you into the ground like dudes have without a doubt said [ __ ] like that psychological War man trying to get you to L cool but there's no but similar to some the way some sports regulated should it be regulated Joe no no it's free speech any anything that you say in in term your house is on fire right now well that's different

you're look first of all you saying in the middle of a fight you can't yeah you should be able to say your house is on fire how the [ __ ] would you no my house is on fire or you know what get your dick out of my face stop talking [ __ ] about my house what is this this is uh why don't you pull it down so we could read it yes this is a New York carelo Anthony Caro Carmelo EST stranged from wife El whatever laa what is it about what is it about why this up he pretty much said a comment like when he was playing uh your wife tastes like Honey Nut Cheerios and it just remember so he's getting in trouble for that you know what's funny Melo was does though let's be honest pretty Melo was waiting for him apparently um like uh in where they go to the walk to the bus like right there he was supposedly waiting for him oh like he's going to kick his ass I mean I guess and they were both in the same team together no different teams it's different teams well you know that's a choice he's going to have to make on his own yeah listen man honey that cheer interesting dudes talk [ __ ] it's part look if if you do talk [ __ ] like that you're clearly an [ __ ] you're clearly a piece of [ __ ] as a human being and if you're willing to be a piece of [ __ ] as a human being just for you know just to win you could win without that you can win without that and be healthier you know especially fighting I mean you know the odds of you really getting inside a dude's head and and causing him to do something that's going to make him lose the fight they're [ __ ] professionals man those the dudes who are really good stop Brian stop putting [ __ ] up this distracting the dudes that are winning man they're they're [ __ ] Samurai they know what the [ __ ] they're doing but the but but wouldn't the professionals know what to say to get into someone's heading isn't that a part but isn't that a part of warfare all the time a lot of guys are not good at it at all they the greatest fighters ever misdirection distraction yeah of course you have the silent Warrior now you're now you're the one who's romanticizing Warrior who will just sit there praying at some Buddhist temple until he gets up like Ken rayu and goes and beats the [ __ ] of his opponent and

then fly back to Thailand so he can sit under that that fake Statue and fight sagot later no I mean dude he's going to say some [ __ ] up [ __ ] in your ear not always listen man you're wrong this is why you're wrong the greatest Fighters almost always are martial artists like real martial artists the guys like George S Pierre the guys like Leota Macha these guys they're not [ __ ] talkers ever at all they follow by the true martial arts principles and that's one of the reasons why they're so good they don't carry the burden of [ __ ] talking when a guy like CH sunnon talks mad [ __ ] before a fight look CH can obviously back it up he's obviously a very good fighter but make no mistake about it there's a tremendous pressure on him because of that [ __ ] talking on top of the fact that he's got to fight that is an extra opponent that you have inside the Octagon knowing that if you lose my God you're going to look like a [ __ ] idiot that [ __ ] is real and it's an enemy and it is also enforcing the ego which is it has to be left out as much as possible in any situation where you're dealing with extreme pressure because CU it it shows character cracks cracks you but then what about what about a guy like Muhammad Ali Muhammad Ali was a brilliant a brilliant boxer and he was a brilliant Sportsman and he figured out how to get inside a lot of people's heads and defeat them that but he would have been able to do that just by boxing them like it was beautiful what he did because it was entertaining for all of us and he by doing that he also called a tremendous amount of attention to himself but you know what I think he did was a form of extreme the extreme braggadocious nature of the way he would talk was so obvious that it was almost like theater like Howard coell said to him champ you seem truculent he goes whatever truculent mean if it's good I'm that right like just that that's being somebody in somebody's ear saying whatever you're going to say to them you know you can if you want you you see him doing that at that particular time but people wouldn't think he's wrong for that but someone would think that someone who's talking [ __ ] on the football field saying Reckless things about someone else's family they're wrong they're wrong for that well wait first of all people

definitely thought he was wrong for that you're de you're dealing with the perception of mam Ali I'm saying you do you think he's wrong for that no well I don't think anybody's wrong for anything I told you I think you should be able to talk mad [ __ ] on the football field too but you said the people who do that are a douchebag douchebags oh yeah he was definitely a douchebag to Joe he 100% a douchebag to Joe Fraser he used to bring a gorilla a rubber gorilla during the time of the 50s and the 60s rather when you're you're dealing with this is when they grew up Ali and Frasier grew up during the worst racial time in all of history and Muhammad Ali in this the history of this country 1860 was probably worse than it's pretty bad I mean as far as like the the turn of the times the dealing with Martin Luther King the de the all the the race rights civil struggles and then you're also dealing with a new medium which is television and you're dealing with this face that is not only is this guy an incredibly controversial figure but this guy's also a black African-American who doesn't want to fight in Vietnam War and he holding up a gorilla and he's calling Joe Frasier and Uncle Tom and he's hitting this gorilla doll saying that he's a big ugly gorilla Joe Frasier and he's setting Joe Frasier up to be like this this this Uncle Tom with the white man Champion that doesn't question anything well he's I mean he Savaged that guy's reputation destroyed that guy's mind he hate Joe Frasier hated him forever and they could have just fought they could have just fought you know they could have just did he could could have left all that racist [ __ ] out of there could have left all that Uncle Tom [ __ ] out of there he chose to do that was he a douchebag look man I'm just an observer watching a guy live his life but he was definitely a douchebag to Joe Fraser Joe Fraser was pretty open about it he hated that [ __ ] for a long time because of that [ __ ] he used to make fun of him even when he had like Parkinson's and all the other [ __ ] about that oh yeah yeah Joe Frasier he he taunted Muhammad Ali's shaking and all that stuff I mean he he was he was upset for a long ass [ __ ] time and he when he knocked Muhammad Ali down with that left hook and won that fight that first fight make no mistake about a of people

were [ __ ] happy that Muhammad Ali the draft dodging black man who talks all that [ __ ] got beat and lost his title to the guy who's like a good family man who who you know goes to church allegedly yeah he's a fighter he's a [ __ ] they're all crazy every every figh is crazy you know you're [ __ ] throwing bones at a man for a living you know that's a Nutty way to get by but he was the preferable one cuz he was much more humble he wasn't this guy you know I shook up the world he wasn't that guy he was he was a different guy he was just a tough guy from the Streets of Philadelphia it's a totally different situation but people definitely hated Ali because of his talking [ __ ] they always hate guys who are confident there's always going to be people that want to chip you down when you're that conf is Anderson Silva coming back who knows man it's a hard injury to come back from you tell me is he going I don't know any predictions he no I would have no idea first of all I'm not a doctor second of all I don't know what's on going on in his head you know you get the psychology of a guy who loses twice in devastating fashion like that once by catastrophic injury in a fight that he was quite honestly losing he lost that first round in a pretty big he was losing he was losing that fight in a big way that first round and that guy was gaining on him that guy's a scary guy that Chris Weidman he's just he's a [ __ ] beast and he beat Anderson twice I saw some videos of him fighting other people he's a monster he's a monster he's he's a really tough wrestler who grew up getting his ass kicked by his brothers those are the most dangerous [ __ ] those the youngest kids of a a family full of savages dad was like a pro football player all stud athletes house full of stud athlete dudes you have to be tough as [ __ ] to be the young brother right they probably broke a bone of his or two growing they dropped a metal plate on his head he was like relaying all the different times he was bullied by his brothers and what what happened they they created a guy who gives zero [ __ ] will punch your face in I mean that's what he is and Anderson Silva just couldn't hang with that two times in a row call showboating and all that stuff aside he was showboating the first time in during the first fight and

but one of the reasons why he was show he was getting smashed when he took him down he wanted widman to keep that fight standing where he has the best Advantage cuz he took Weidman took Anderson to the ground early in the first round and hit him with some vicious ground andow stung him rolled his eyes back in his head he hit him with a couple hard shots one very clean right hand that without a doubt Anderson saw some sparks without a doubt and he knew that that was a real dangerous position he couldn't hold this guy back for very long holding on to him on the ground is tough too strong he's too good of a wrestler and he hits too hard so his best chance was to get this guy to stand up with him so he started getting cocky with him talking [ __ ] trying to get into his head and that's that's what actually cost him what cost him was him not fighting like a martial artist was him being like a guy trying to play psychological warfare instead of just fighting with perfect technique he got the guy to stand up with him if he can keep that fight standing he should have the advantage he's much faster his technique is about as good as it gets in all the land there's no better stand up striking technique than Anderson silvas but in in goting that guy into an ego battle he took some chances and then he got cracked so I don't know if he's coming back man those are two big losses you know I mean he says he wants to he's not he's not in he he's towards the end of his career not towards the beginning allegedly right you know some guys can stretch that [ __ ] out what's crazy is guys like Bernard Hopkins who are 10 years older than him and Bernard Hopkins has one of the light heavyweight titles in boxing he's a 175 pound champion and he's almost 50 years old I mean no one's ever done that before but Bernard Hopkins fights exactly the opposite of Anderson he's very safy technique oriented if you watch how Bernard fights he's a master like he's a Master with his footwork he's a master of positioning he's always in a good place you're always in a bad place he's just been around for so long and he knows how to get guys out of their head but the way he gets guys out of their head is he's he fights rough with them he gets dirty with them he pulls on their heads a lot he leans on them he he he fights rough he fights real rough and he'll

he'll force a boxer to get into these clinch Wars with him almost like an MMA fight where he wears the guy's arms out makes him too tired to punch and then you know I mean he did that to a lot of dudes he did that to Felix Trinidad he [ __ ] Felix Trinidad up I remember that fight a lot of people didn't see him winning he was an under Ste on a PR flag and all that yo they had a green light on him in New York I remember that yo mad Puerto Ricans were like yo green light on that [ __ ] they they were they were literally going to put like a spear through his heart when he came up here they he he squashed all that apparently I don't know how but I I'll just let it know once upon a time it was very real and when back in the 90s if you had beef with a Puerto Rican you had beef with a million of them they was not not playing it was the 2000s that he fought Tito Trinidad I don't remember the exact year but no it was like two it was like literally 2000 but right leaking into that remember the Jerry Seinfeld thing he had be for the Puerto Ricans what was that Jerry Seinfeld did yeah what was it over it was was was it over the pr parade like they they had like an episode where they like yeah they're making fun of the parade yeah they they then people were calling it racist and all this other stuff but yeah he had to squash the beef with the Puerto Ricans dude it was right after September 11th it was actually September 29th 2001 in Madison Square Garden crazy yeah he stepped on the FL he apologized afterwards he said they actually had to move it cuz it was supposed to be September 15th and that was right after September 11th so they was in Madison Square Garden yep and so they moved it to September 29th wow that's crazy and he beat the [ __ ] out of phix Trinidad that was a boxing performance masterful no I remember that fight it was genius and then he fought Kelly pavick that was another genius performance I mean that was another fight where it was a dangerous fight against a real knockout puncher and he just box circles around that kid he's just so technical man so who's going to who's going to fight the the Weedman dude now well weidman's going to fight vtor Belford yeah yeah that's an interesting fight well it's also interesting because there's a a real controversy regarding testosterone

use cuz vtor has a testosterone use exemption and he's been fighting in Brazil apparently has low testosterone so they give him uh the license to take testosterone like all the time so he's essentially taking hormones taking male hormones and widman is not so Weidman is fighting completely naturally with no enhancement whatsoever just being a young guy with normal they supplements and all all kinds of other [ __ ] I don't know what it uses some guys don't use [ __ ] there's some guys that fight in the UFC that don't use a goddamn thing they just eat healthy food and drink a lot of water and that's it there's quite a few guys who do that um some guys take a variety of different muscle enhancing supplements you know there's like testosterone boosters that are legal like there's a one that on it s is called t+ it's shown that people like weightlifters were showing that it's uh increased their ability to lift weights and double blind Placebo studies where you're not using you know the using essentially a giant group people they don't know what they're using and the people that were using t+ got higher uh higher Improvement in their their weightlifting so there's a few things that you can do but for the most part most of the guys that get on it they get on the synthetic form they get in on the synthetic form of testosterone so there's like a few different t+ and there's a couple there's a a couple other test boosters and there's a few roots that are supposed to work like Tribulus is supposed to have a a small effect and there's some there's another what is it long jck C or something like that I forget there's another one that's supposed to have some sort of an effect but for the most part it doesn't have anywhere near the effect that actually taking testosterone will have so these guys take it and vtor is taking it and they're they uh there's a dispute as to whether or not he's going to get licensed in Las Vegas and if he doesn't get licensed to use testosterone then he has to get off of the testosterone and then fight Wyman and if that happens man that's going to be really fascinating because his hormone levels are going to be all [ __ ] [ __ ] up if he's used to taking an an extra natural form of testosterone injecting it into a system and then you stops doing it his body is

going to have a much lower level of testosterone in his training camps than even normally a regular person he would have it'll drop off yeah because his body has been used to getting it externally his body's not producing it anymore so it's really interesting they'll have to they'll have to Kickstart his body's production of testosterone which is like wow that's crazy so it's it's it's controversial in that respect but skill-wise it's a very dangerous fight for both guys Weidman is a [ __ ] beast but godamn vtor Belford looks scary as [ __ ] lately he took out Dan Henderson in the first round he took out I mean he he took him out in a way that no one's ever taken Dan Henderson out like that his his striking is just horrific it's very very scary I actually I went to uh like a mixed martial arts competition but like it was like a local one that one of my friends was supposed to fight in um but he got injured and so he didn't fight at the end but ended up watching it and it was actually pretty interesting it was in uh it was like in Long Island uh um and it was like a small gym it was full of like a few hundred people but it was really interesting like I I saw the the difference in kind of how they run those local MH spots and now I've never actually been to one of those big MMA things so tell me when you want to go man I'll hook it up tell me when you want to go you heard it you heard it that's Jiu-Jitsu you just give me a day just tell me which one you want to go to we'll hook it up no I definitely want to see it man what are you do on February 22nd holy [ __ ] that's my birthday weekend Vegas there it is there it is there it is come on dude what were you planning on doing this this is what he's doing you see that feeling that's the feeling you get when you're anticipating a hangover that's what you just did you what's what's the one after that just in case well there's a big one in Dallas after that huge one it's for the Welterweight Title and it's at Dallas Cowboy stadium so that's that's that's a gigantic event you can go to that one want that one uh I'll give you the exact date of that that is um that's in March I think it's March I want to say 15th but hold on a second I'll tell you in one second yeah is it

March 15th yeah yeah that one is going to be gigantic that is 50,000 people man in in Dallas at Dallas Cowboy stadium that's probably the best one to go to it's going to be historic that's the title fight yeah there'll be a new new crowning of the welterweight Championship because uh George stepped down George St Pierre stepped down and so the guy who I thought won the decision Johnny Hendrick I thought it was a bad decision and I'm a huge George St Pierre fan by the way of him as a person and as a fighter but I thought it with all honesty that the decision was incorrect I thought Johnny won three rounds to two so he's going to take on Robbie Lawler so that'll be the new UFC welterweight champion dude you got to come to that so he vacated the title and now they're going to they're going to brawl out yes and there's also Carlos K is fighting Tyron Woodley which is [ __ ] Madness and Chaos that's going to be insane fight that's an insane insane fight there's a lot of insane fights Diego Sanchez is fighting miles jury that is a great [ __ ] fight miles jury is a beast real tough young kid and Diego Sanchez is the this definition of the word Savage and this Cuban [ __ ] Hector Lombard you ever seen him fight holy [ __ ] is he scary I heard of him God damn it he's a monster he's a monster dude he's an Olympic judoka Judo specialist who who doesn't even use his grappling just knocks people the [ __ ] out he's a super athlete and um yeah he just fought Nate marquart and put him away in the first round in a mugging and Nate marquart's the former Strike Force champion and Lumbar just mugged him at 170 he's terrifying he fought his whole career at 185 he was the Bellator Champion at 185 pounds but dropped down to 170 and he's just like a muscle I mean the dude has like 6% body fat and just shredded shredded spring of just corded Ste and he just everybody just tries to get the [ __ ] away from him just throwing bombs at you the the the move that uh Weedman made Weidman pardon me to to uh the Weedman that's what I'm call you're the weed man homie I'm not going to say that heard no no I'm sure he's heard it a million times yeah yeah you know people called me that before I break their [ __ ] legs homie he wouldn't say that he's a super nice guy no he

probably is most most [ __ ] that I know that really really got it like that they don't ever start problems they just wait till the problems come to them and they take care of him and they keep it moving well the guy he's fighting is a super nice guy too Carlos KH is fighting this guy Jake Shields is a Jiu-Jitsu uh black belt who's a world class Grappler it's a real real interesting guy just beat Woodley in his last fight so it's a very interesting very interesting fight and what about this uh who's gonna fight uh Jon then Jon Jones Jon Jones is gonna fight he's gonna fight in Baltimore and he's gonna fight Glover to Shar who's the scariest [ __ ] out of all the 205lb contenders Glover is the [ __ ] Devil he's scary that guy he's everybody knows that Glover was on the sidelines for 6 months he had a Visa issue and he couldn't get to the United States and he was [ __ ] people up in small shows cuz he was one of Chuck ladell's training partners and he has been world class like top of the food chain world class for almost a decade now like Soju before Soju made this big splash and pride was knock he knocked out little nog knocked out Ricardo Rona before he did that Glover toera [ __ ] him up in the wec but Glover had Visa issues for so for six years everybody knew that Glover was like having real problems trying to fight in America but he was fighting in Brazil and just beating the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of people man he's a beast what was the Visa issue he was Brazilian and sometimes you know you have an issue getting U um the visa to fight America the money he didn't have the money he wasn't fighting for the UFC back then he was fighting for smaller organizations and you know you got to have a Visa before the UFC can even sign you it's funny because we we're going to have a a discussion later on today um down in like Chunk we going to have a a talk about immigration and we were discussing this specific issue about um they were saying oh you know it's the law all the critics are saying oh it's the the law has to be enforced it's not just the law it's the law for poor people because when you're rich apparently some of my friends that are that are are lawyers that handle immigration cases they'll tell me straight up no listen there are rich families from places in Asia in the Middle East that when they want to come

here they buy a green card and I was like what do you mean buy a green card and they set up a company in order to to employ certain people here it has to be a certain it's like $200 $300,000 and when they pay into it they immediately are given green cards to manage the business here as long as they employ a certain amount of Americans but like you say you know he probably just didn't have the people backing him up yeah you got to have mad cash to buy you make a fake company in order to get green cards but it can be done look if you're a really wealthy man from Iceland and you wanted to come to America and get a green card I'm sure it could be aranged and somewhere you know guys got a billion kunar or whatever the [ __ ] their money is you know whatever their money is over there but my friend Glover this uh guy who's going to be fighting Jon Jones who also uh I'm I'm actually friends with Jon Jones I love that guy that's a tough fight tough fight for both guys Glo Glover is a beast but Jon Jones is a goddamn freak athlete he's a freak and I think Jon Jones is going to be ultra motivated for this fight I felt like he he learned something his last title defense was a tough fight against Guston who's a beast it was a great great fight really really close fight Jon won that decision and I think you know really realized he was in a war and his barring down he's saying all the right things and I think he's going to try to look to put on a show against this Glover cat but Glover is scary as [ __ ] man when are they going to fight they're going to fight in Baltimore in April Glover puts people to sleep man he puts able to sleep with one punch he fought Ryan Bader and Ryan Bader heard him Ryan Bader tagged him and wobbled him and as Ryan Bader moved in to close the show Glover to share shut his [ __ ] lights off he's a monster man he's been around a long ass time and he hits [ __ ] hard we had his trainer uh John hackelman was on the podcast he was talking about holding the mids for this dude and he's like he hits you different he's like and Hackleman by the way was a kickboxing champion motherfucker's been around since the 70s doing karate and Kempo and he's he's seen it all and then some and he talks about Glover he's like and this [ __ ] guy hits you like you feel the knuckles

through your hand like you're holding the pads for him he's like I've never felt it like that he goes I've never had anybody punch me that hard he goes not Chuck not anybody and he goes Chuck is a murderous puncher this guy punches even harder he's like it's like ridiculous like Mike Tyson style punching power he's like he if he hits you you're [ __ ] and he did that to Ryan Bader Ryan Bader tagged him had him wobbled and covering up and Ryan Bader Moved In For the Kill and Glover just boom just dropped a Haymaker on him and you see his eyes go sideways and his legs give out [ __ ] hard I saw a fight recently I forget who it was but one person was really wearing down this motherfucker's leg he was just working on the leg beating the [ __ ] out of his leg and then just hit him with the overhand right knock dude out might well there's been a few of those you know was it a kickboxing match or was it a MMA fight it was an MMA fight was it the UFC I believe so it might have been uh Edson Barbosa Edson barbos is one of the most scary guys when it comes to leg kicks in the UFC he's one of the uh the top lightweights he's actually fighting Donald Cerrone that's coming up soon God damn that's got to be a good [ __ ] fight I guess it's the American Airlines Center Jo not is there a lot of is there a lot of gambling at these events oh yeah in Vegas 100% the one if you want to come to the uh veto Bel for Chris Weidman fight that's in May that's May 24th if you want to come to that that's going to be in Vegas and that I I just hope you see if they don't give vtor a testosterone use exemption I mean I I understand what everybody says it's not fair I I understand the logic but if they don't give it to him he he really shouldn't be fighting for the title unless he can get his hormones back in order I mean if he's been taking testosterone for a long period of time I don't understand how his body is just going to start magically producing it again on its own unless they figure out something that they could give him that'll Kickstart his production of testosterone but if that's the case shouldn't he been doing that in the first place so I don't know I mean if the guy really does need testosterone I hope they give it to him because if they

don't he's not going to really be able to fight right not to the same level that he's going to be able to fight if he's on it obviously but that's wasn't Mike Tyson taking like pills or mood oning pills when he fought lenx Lewis somebody told me this story they he was on anti-depressants yeah he was taking some sort of medication yeah that's happened before um guys I saw him kiss him on his on his cheek and all he's trying to be nice to him he said I love you he said I love you to your M you know not to make fun of Mike Tyson you know he's a monster even now but I'm just saying when I look at that I'm like all right how could he not have been affected by that you are mood altering drugs and now they're asking you to fight for your life and then at the end of it you put a flower in the nigga's hair and then kissed him on the cheek yeah I don't know what he was on when he fought Lennox but I wouldn't be surprised man he he was high on drugs during major fights he definitely said that right that he was uh he was doing coke all the time and uh he even used a uh a fake penis to uh avoid detection he used one of those fake rubber penises he's a bad [ __ ] dude I I love the fact that he comes out and just tells everything about everything that he did that was crazy it makes me more inclined to believe that he never rape that girl first of all and it makes me more inclined to sort of forgive him for being so [ __ ] crazy the all the horrible things that he definitely did do it's like the guy was living a wild Reckless life he's telling you all he did he's telling he's opening up the door like this is all the [ __ ] I did I was doing coke and fighting people right and people like oh I used a rubber dick like damn Jesus Christ I I think he's he's a classic story in my opinion he's the greatest heavyweight champion of all time I yes I put him at the top of the list I think for a brief moment in time people want to consider his whole entire career towards the end out of prison after prison post prison but I think that before then I think when he was in his prime the guy that beat Larry Holmes I think the guy that beat Marvis Frasier I think that that Mike Tyson the greatest heavyweight but he also had some old paper Champion dudes that he

fought and a bunch of them obviously not the ones you mentioned and then the razor ruic fight was crazy those people really gave him a run for his money he he had to punish them as much as they were trying to punish him but for some of them it for example the Buster Douglas thing he took that [ __ ] lightly he walked in like it was whatever and it went over with some other Fighters but not with Buster Douglas well that was also post prison he wasn't the same guy right wasn't it no no no no no I'm wrong no Buster Douglas happened then all the crazy [ __ ] happened then he went to prison right right then he lost his title and and then he came back and then he came back and he fought Holyfield and you have those Holyfield debacles those were [ __ ] crazy when he bit Holyfield's ear that was all post prison you're right when he was get that he was saying that hly was headbutting him which he does all the time you go back and you look at all the tapes he headbutts everybody but Tyson did it too I mean they they headbutted each other and the point being that Tyson like didn't stay at the same level when custado died and then Kevin Rooney took over I think he maintained that level for a little bit but I think that the fame and the fortune and the madness were too crazy when you have your own [ __ ] Lions when you you live in a gigantic 100 [ __ ] room house and you bought 15 bent you know for every person you've ever met he's a he's a mad man you got a bunch of free loading ass people with you but I mean again but I just think I don't think you can keep it up but I think that when he was at his best I think he only kept it up for a few years like two years three years but I think during that time he was the greatest of all time that's my personal opinion I don't think anybody ever sent shock waves through the boxing world the way that guy did when he emerged on the scene and just started starching people with [ __ ] hay makers that came at the speed that Roberto Duran would throw them yet it's coming from a guy who 25b and just launching [ __ ] into orbit that right hook to the body right uppercut that would snap your [ __ ] head uppercut that uppercut was when I see the the the the old YouTube videos of him fighting that uppercut is

murdered I don't know how someone's jaw was intact after that he was ferocious but you can't keep it up forever man it's redlining when you Redline an you go you get that [ __ ] up to 9,000 RPMs then you got to shift gears you have to and he didn't ever shift gears he redlined it to the end somebody told me um we were having this discussion about like music and I went to the Berkeley College of Music and I was telling kids like listen it people don't generally get rich off of Music which what artists do is they take that Nest Egg of money that they do or that they get from music and they invest it wisely in something else the richest rappers quote unquote are people who have made some money in music and they say oh you know what I'm going to start like a a construction company or or a contracting company or I'm going to buy Six waffle houses or I'm going to get you know a clothing company or whatever it is and that's how they make their money what what is the Twilight for Fighters Joe where where do they fall back well it depends on the fighter it depends entirely on the fighter restaurant some guys become commentators like CH sunnon he'll eventually be a commentator for sure he is one now Rashad Evans is doing commentary now while he's fighting Brian Stan retired he became a commentator Kenny floran retired he became a commentator a lot of them are they're and they're also becoming judges Ricardo Almeida is a judge in New York now and he's also a lot of them are coaches that's most likely the the best path for them especially the guys that still love the sport they still want to be around the sport like Dwayne lwig is the coach of the year he won Coach of the Year congratulations my friend Dwayne he won coach of the year for 2013 rightly so because he did a tremendous job of transitioning between being a great fighter to being an even better Coach I mean an amazing coach for this team alpha male he's just changed that whole [ __ ] team I mean they're all striking like at a very high level now much much higher than they were before so that's a good transition for Dwayne and he's doing very well with that but some guys uh they just quit and go into business Keith Jardine opened up a coffee company he's caveman coffee that's Keith and uh

my friend Tate who also was former MMA fighter they they open up a coffee company some guys go into acting you know Gina gershon's like a famous actress now Gina Gerson Gina God damn it what's her name the Gina corano Gina gerson's obviously a famous actress too um there was another rumor that Clinton [ __ ] her too that's why it was been following all this oh Jesus Clinton [ __ ] everybody God love him last last American presidential dick Slinger ladies and gentlemen yo dude what was he they say he smashed out Liz Hurley yeah yeah there's a picture of them staring at each other looking at each other's eyes and you're like oh yeah for sure it's just too romantic the look them looking at what was it wasn't it Tom Tom seore that was dry snitching he was he was a dry snitch yep that dirty son of a [ __ ] that nigga's a snitch he is that's what I said that's the first thing I said on the thread I said what this tells me is that Tom seore can't keep a [ __ ] secret dude yeah that's weak that's come on man and you going to throw bill under the bus there's the picture Come On Son look at his eyes no one escapes that dick that dick is that dick is an octopus comes out and grabs everything look at her looking at him I mean that is like a dominant submissive picture if ever people were not touching but one was encroaching look at his body language he's leaning towards her look at her look at her left shoulder turned slightly away from him she wants to lay down right now look at her oh dirty too dirty dirty dirty people I love it I wish I was there I beat off in the corner I wouldn't say a word slick slick Willie tearing it up oh my God I don't know how we got on that subject we were talking about Mike Tyson beating the [ __ ] out of people and we got to that that's just rude that's just rude the tits are tremendous you don't need to [ __ ] up the picture by putting Hillary in there get that get that picture down you don't need to [ __ ] up all of our minds by thinking about the guilt that he must have suffered right after he nutted not worth it [ __ ] oh kiss she knows she knows back zoom in on the shorty right there back and the one in the back is

like yo it's popping she knows yeah look at her she [ __ ] oh my God look at that woman wow yeah not her it is George Washington what the [ __ ] is that guy doing they play dress up look Paul rier is right behind him to his right look at this Paul R Paul R look at that woman that woman's a hater no the woman right there get up to her look at that face she knows she knows that is the class face she got the dick I didn't she def she definitely knows that something was going on under the table saw soon as they got in their car her and her husband she was like that [ __ ] did you see the way he kissed Elizabeth Hurley oh he's such a pig I just I despise him rush limbo's right look at him disgusting you know what's funny though when I when I heard about this it was so interesting that I I heard conservatives come out the woodwork um who was it I think it was Rand Paul was like oh man this is terrible the President should apologize but wait a minute homie where were you when n Gingrich was running for office because didn't he drop his wife and then deal with another woman and then deal with another one I mean isn't that the the the the Benchmark of men that are in power they're just looking to play gotcha all these [ __ ] are just using that like it's points on a board like nobody ever [ __ ] no they scored on you they caught you they scored on you they got points now and they're just going to use those points to try to shut you down and build them up but it all just makes everybody look like a bunch of [ __ ] because if that was going on amongst your friends let's say if there was 10 of your friends and one of your friends was not particularly happy with his wife's relationship and so he started banging Elizabeth Hurley and all you guys found out about it I wouldn't dry snitch I would play Tom seore I'll tell you if you went out and you you snit no one would want to hang out with you anymore You' be like what the [ __ ] Tech come on man who's going to party with Tom sismour now not me I'll tell you that Tom go [ __ ] yourself pal oh Jesus CHR non secret keeping [ __ ] I met Tom sidmore he's a cool dude that's why I was I was shocked I I did a show called the list and uh he came on and it was like a thing for VH1

it was pretty cool man I think it was him and Rob howford from Judith Priest were on the same show did he did he know or was he secretly being recorded oh I don't know man I don't know I I you know I don't know if he even really said it I'm just talking [ __ ] like I said I met the guy he's a nice guy supposed said in or something like that allegedly that's what everyone's saying and there's a picture of him look man the dude also did a lot of drugs he probably is not thinking so good like his uh his judgment's quite suspect he's not the kind of guy you would want to have some information if Tom sore finds up dead Vince Foster Style on a hill with gun attached to his Thum and no no blood at the scene of the crime super ugly yeah Vince the strange death of Vince Foster is a fantastic book you want to talk about a weird death that appears to be murder this was during the Clinton Administration there's a guy named Vince Foster and you know he knew some things about some things and a bunch of people knew some things and Vince Foster might have been a liability and he wound up dead holding on to the gun in his hand with the the thumb still on the trigger which they say never happens they say that when someone shoots themselves and you commit suicide your hand goes the gun just goes flying like you don't hold on to the gun the the violence of a gun like if you've ever shot a gun you know that guns have a kick well if you're not conscious you're not going to hold on to that gun and see where Vince Foster has his his thumb like trapped in where holding on to the to the gun he's also lying down uh in an area where there was no blood there's more blood missing from his body then was at the scene of the crime his body was moved somebody moved him there doesn't mean that he didn't kill himself he still could have killed himself he could have killed himself with a gay lover and the gay lover wanted to cover up the story so he grabbed the body and dropped it off somewhere and put the gun in his who knows and I'm just making that gay lover part up I don't know why I went there youing at two of those images that Brian red keeps bringing up with [ __ ] Greek [ __ ] whatever the reason was or whoever killed him whoever killed him it's it's most likely that uh whether

was he killed himself or somebody else killed him they moved his body and uh they put a gun in his thumb it just doesn't add up doesn't add up it's a it's a strange case because uh that's when the the Whitewater [ __ ] was going on not white waterer what was the the what was the the land deal that the clintons were involved White Water they lost money on the deal supposedly wasn't Whitewater the Nixon [ __ ] no no no no no what was the Watergate all this water talk water is a problem with President you know you know what's crazy um I tell you a personal story when I was incarcerated I was in Pennsylvania and I was processed through an area um and there was this uh district attorney named Ray Greek car um who disappeared and I know people who were watch watching from Pennsylvania they know they know the story um shout out to PA and the crazy thing is that he literally he was investigating the Sandusky thing yeah a lot of people don't know that they found his [ __ ] laptop without without a hard drive right and he disappeared gone gone and the ASA that tried my case was then disbarred after uh like two it was like maybe two or three uh uh uh cases after me for tampering with evidence supposedly there was some shootout and like he had removed shell casings from the scene of the [ __ ] crime how about that other judge in in Pennsylvania that got accused of sending kids to ju homes he Wasing to jail selling them for money he made $3 million over the course of [ __ ] like [ __ ] 10 years unbelievable the guy's a judge and he's making sure that kids go to jail for paper [ __ ] for money oh God that's crazy there's not a hole small enough or dark enough to shove him in dude no you got to kill that guy that guy they should put him in a corner and some parent you give a parent the gun and you go in you shoot that [ __ ] guy in the head and you feed him to pigs that's it it's over you don't let that guy rot away and live in jail he chose to take children and put them in horrendous situations where you know they were sexually abused do you know they were physically tortured 100% And they could have been let free and they could have enjoyed their lives they could have got their [ __ ] together they could have been musicians or comedians or athletes or whatever the

[ __ ] they could have been without that horrific life experience that they were forced to endure because of a corrupt chot shoot that [ __ ] right in the head throw him in a box let the rats eat him throw him in the ground let the worms digest his body [ __ ] him [ __ ] his Tombstone no coughin get in that hole stupid make him dig his own [ __ ] hole and then shoot him right in the dick [ __ ] that piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] him man just throw him with the shars the the crazy [ __ ] is though that a lot of people never made that connection between his disappearance and it was only something recent that happened and I and still not they're not investigating it you know you're don't hearing a word about it well I mean should be something that's like I think that area in PA is a little like that Stubenville situation where it's all some like you know local good old boys type town where you know I'll be honest I heard rumors while I was there I can't confirm or deny them and I won't say that they're true because I don't want to get sued but the reality is that I always heard rumors that the judges in that county or that two of them in in specific would drive drunk all the time home and every single day a cop would follow them so that if they Veer too far off the road he would take them out put them in his car drive it and then come back and get his other car 100% I wouldn't doubt it for a goddamn second that when when that whenever someone had like an issue with drug addiction or something like they would always clean it up for for like a cop's kid or for the judge's child or something like that so I mean when you talk about a tier justice system it's ironic that people say oh man technique you make conscious music and I always remind them being conscious doesn't imply that you're going to do anything it just means you know that something's wrong but I think that the consciousness of this Society is much more aware all the divide and conquer [ __ ] that we were talking about in the beginning of the show that's harder to do today because I don't have a beef with Canada I don't have a beef with Mexico I don't have a beef with any part of the world I've met people in other places and they've been just like me and I've talked to people online Jo that's different you know you

see a lot of different people you're right but I think that this connection that we're all experiencing online is a very different way of experiencing the world and that divide and conquer is almost impossible now it's almost impossible as long as we can understand each other now let me ask you if people for example they think that something's fake they think something's not real then they're upset about it you know let's say people found out right now that the Super Bowl was staged just as much as something like wrestling would be all right now the injuries are real just like they say in wrestling hey man you know the wrestling's fake but the injuries are real you know I think that people would be on a verge of ripping the place apart well you would you could fake you could fix the Super Bowl but to fake the Super Bowl would be not fake but obviously to say all right we want we would we would be more inclined if this team won or if this and I know people would say that's so impractical that could never happen the World Series has been accused of been fixed several times this is what you could do this is what has been done what they can do is they can hire referees and make sure that the referees are paid for and bought off and bribed and then if there is a situation where a questionable call can be made right where they can call it one way or the other especially before they used to use instant replays right I mean the instant replay thing clears up a lot of [ __ ] there's a lot of things they I mean if a Ball's not in a Ball's not in if a dude's foot is out of bounds a dude's foot's out of bounds if you're looking at the instant replay there's not much you can say but before all that man God damn they must have rigged a lot of games didn't didn't basketball referees didn't somebody they got caught there was a [ __ ] ring there was a ring of them out of Philly matter of fact and what was going on what was the story uh they had I think it was like 12 of them and they were all referees yeah and they had it for years like they were just on the payroll and the hilarious they were connected how they got caught is one of The Bookies somebody they end up tapping like a bookie phone and so basically The Bookies was paying them unbelievable man well it only makes sense when you think about the amount of

money involved in gambling you know that's the thought about uh fixed fights too I mean the the real the fixing fights is not like you know the Champions paying you off to lose no the fixing fights is someone is want wants to bet a fuckload of money a fuckload of money like here's a good example and people said I'm crazy for thinking this but Manny Pacquiao when Manny Pacquiao fought Tim Bradley Tim Bradley won that fight in no one's eyes but maybe Tim Bradley's family and a couple of people at home that really hate Manny Pacquiao most people saw Manny Pacquiao box his face off they saw him not his face off but he won that fight he won the fight in my opinion it was a terrible terrible decision but when you find out that someone voted uh that someone like put the scores in and that same someone put the same like really ridiculous score in another fight where it doesn't make any sense and then you're watching over and over again you're seeing these these scores that don't make any sense you're seeing these fights that most people thought the fight one fighter clearly won and they have like two fighters or two judges will call it where it's uh you know the the one one fighter is winning by like six seven eight rounds and then the other one makes it a draw and you're like how the [ __ ] could that be well the way it could be is because then it's not a majority decision and there's unanimous decisions rather it's not a unanimous decision there's unanimous decision bets so you can bet a huge amount of money that Manny Pacquiao is not going to beat Timothy Bradley by unanimous decision you're GNA you're going to bet [ __ ] that it's going to be a split decision and everybody's going to go are you [ __ ] crazy you going to take that bet it's like X to one no one no one ever sees split decisions well if one judge is paid off just one judge all they have to do is say it's a draw and everybody else is like what the [ __ ] are you talking about what did you watch that wasn't a draw but the guy who makes the money is the guy who paid off the referee to make it a jaw or the judge to make it a draw and they win that bet clean and simple the odds on the first uh scoring being a Touchback I heard safety I mean were like incredible what gods were like super sick people got riched just off of

that yeah and I mean I don't know if it's possible that you could just rig that is it possible that would be enough I mean that would be enough what's is that possible to rig yeah you pay the center off I mean the center you and so what does he do what does he have to do I mean the center basically threw the ball over you know the quarterback's head did you do it on purpose you think I mean think he did on purpose he didn't do that the whole season pretty much would you do it for $10 million I mean that's but then you got to account for that $10 million you got to why you have that1 million who's to say maybe it's $10 million cash in America they'll wash it to you cash king in America we all know that a truckload of [ __ ] shows up at this house just beep beep [Music] beep they lower that back door like one of those uh aircraft carriers where they lower the door and [ __ ] come out like all the girls with keys everywhere around the world America it's without a doubt we know the judges have been paid off we know that referees have been paid off we know that there's corruption whenever there's G I just think it's harder with Fighters because at the end of the day I mean a fighter trains and I mean so harder on thems easier to do it looks but at least you can see it it's more obvious Joe has someone has someone got paid to throw a fight in MMA in UFC not in the U I don't know I shouldn't say no I say I don't know of them but I do know of them in Pride in fact fact Eddie Bravo they offered him a fight in Japan and they told him in no uncertain terms that they could make it so that he wins the fight and that they can make it so that he wins the fight any way he wants to win and he thought it was a double cross he the way Eddie Eddie is like what what are you talking about like you g to fix the fight first of all Eddie would never do that he would never compete in a fake fight he just wouldn't do it he wouldn't be able to live with himself I know him he would never do it no matter how much money they paid him and if he did do it he would tell people right afterwards I did a fake fight he wouldn't be able to handle it he would say look man I feel bad but they gave me a half a million bucks I had to [ __ ] do it you know and he would just joke around about how

it happened he would never fake it but what they did was they came to him and they told him that so if that's the case one of two things are going on either there would be a double cross where he would go there thinking it was a fake fight and that dude would beat the [ __ ] out of him and he couldn't say nothing that's possible or he could go there and the guy would lay down the guy would give up or they would have what they would call a hard shoot like or a hard work and a hard work is you're sparring real hard you're [ __ ] the guy will kick you with some leg kicks if [ __ ] goes wrong you could get your jaw broken you could get tagged and get knocked out me there's hard Works where a guy loses that he's supposed to win because a guy got injured because something went wrong sometimes things happen but if you're skillful you can make it look like a real fight and there's for sure that happened in K1 for sure that happened in Pride for sure 100% I I know there's some dudes that told me themselves that they threw fights they got paid a shitload of money and they they Tapped Out the Japanese dudes they got caught in like heel hooks or something like that and the guy won and he's a hero and he's like a pro wrestler in Japan there was some without a doubt there's been some fake and then he walks away with like yeah million dollars and like whale blubber or some it's possible man I mean you could come up to some guy you know you could take some fighter who doesn't make that much money and if he doesn't have strong ethics and you you say to him hey man look we want to pay a lot of money down on you losing by submission to this dude cuz you know the odds of him submitting you are really small so what I want to do is uh set it up so that you know he doesn't even have to know you just have to give him a submission and so they would you know they would tangle and you know he would like give up an arm bar or something like that or give up his neck shoot in on a double a real obvious double where you like literally lay in there for the guillotine let the guy tap you that could happen I mean it could also happen because a guy makes a brain fart and he forgets and he leaves his neck out there and a dude snatches it Andes on but it could that you give your neck up and guys do give their neck up sometimes

when they want out of a fight Su has publicly said that he had some issues with that in his career with pressure that he'd be in big fights and he wound up losing by submission he was like he felt like he gave them the submission like he wanted out of there he left an arm and the guy caught the arm bar like he really felt like he just couldn't take the pressure like like like a subconscious thing telling you you know you know it's we we I talked about that before about how there's a gentle complacency in failure H that sometimes people will say you know what I could have done that if I tried harder and that's what they always say as if to say I could have done it like that was a possibility but I just didn't try hard enough that that doesn't make sense for obvious reasons but at the same time that eases a lot of the anxiety and the tension that people feel cuz it's like all right you know what I had a chance to do this and now I don't have to feel the pressure of dealing with or I found some measure of success and that's all I really need to deal with I don't care about anything farther than that I got what I wanted to get out of this game and that's it and if I happen to get tons of money then [ __ ] it well you know there's some dudes that can definitely find a way to lose and they uh that psychological burden of of trying to get your [ __ ] together and win sometimes it's too hard for people so they almost look to lose to get it over with that's that's real some people can't take take pressure pressure is a strange thing and pressure of not knowing the future the anticipation of something happening and not being able to control it especially when it deals with physical violence someone kicking your ass you know some dudes just Turtle up they Turtle up try to protect themselves take a beating and wait for the referee to pull him off it's happened before and then there's other guys that will never do that there's other guys that will fight with their last [ __ ] breath and they just that warrior code [ __ ] where they're just like yo you got to you're going to have to drag me out of here yeah it's in their nature some guy and then there's some guys that are just real intelligent if they start getting hurt they'll start tapping you know like George St Pierre did that early in his career when he

fought Matt Hughes Matt Hughes was or excuse me uh Matt Sarah Matt sah was [ __ ] him up and he was like whoa this is I got to tap he was just getting mounted and pounded on he started tapping didn't you know lost his title lost his title to Matt Sarah because he was getting [ __ ] pounded on but he knew he's like I am way too hurt I'm not getting out of this one and this dude's going to put me to sleep and then it's going to be real bad if I don't tap some guys don't do that some guys rather go out some guys rather get choked out they don't tap you know War Machine he's going to be on the podcast Wednesday that [ __ ] dude in his last fight he got caught in a real naked choke decided not to tap just went night night just went got choked unconscious the referee pulled the guy off of him and that's where he said hey I'm never going to tap like that's it I'm I'm fighting to my last breath and if you choke me out you choke me out and that that happens in fact his last opponent did the same thing War Machine put him to sleep got the guy in the rear nak put him out guy didn't want to tap didn't want to lose that's what happens there's guys like that and there guys who just tap they go you got me and then they go back to the drawing board it's hard to say who's more intelligent because uh I admire the war machine approach but I also admire the guy who realizes if I tap I go back to the gym and I still have a right arm if I don't tap my [ __ ] arm gets snapped then I have to go through rehab they're going to put bolts in my arm they're going to [ __ ] have to you know put screws in there to keep together going to be [ __ ] for 6 months at least it might not ever be the same again even when it heals up there's guys that have gotten injuries where they never came back 100% And that's just part of the game that's part of reality so it's who's who's who's more intelligent is the guy more intelligent that taps or the guy more intelligent that says you know what man I'm going to figure out a way to win this fight even though I'm in a terrible situation and if he makes it then he's a hero and if he doesn't he goes to sleep well most intelligent is probably the guy who's bribing him to lose no that's the least intelligent walk away with like $20 million he's

going to get in trouble he's going to get oh yeah where has he gotten caught yet doing that [ __ ] in the UFC has anyone got caught well did you see that Russian snooker player who got busted for uh snooker in uh excuse me English the Russian Uh Russian organized crime was uh bribing this snooker they call it snooker snooker player I was just out there and uh they wanted this guy to miss shots they wanted him to miss shots just you know because he's a really famous world champion player and uh I think it was Hurricane Higgins let's say but it was a huge Scandal because they loved their snooka in England snooka yeah yeah no I had a great time when I was out there um I I got to say England to me reminds me of like the same type of enthusiasm that people had in like the '90s for hip-hop where they're not afraid to boo somebody you know you go to you know you go to New York you get like an obligatory clap that's just like oh it's like this tepid sort of loose like it's kind of like you know when your mom made you shake hands with your brother and you hated each other it's like sh shake hands with your brother like [ __ ] this dude shake hands with your brother I'm going to smack you in the [ __ ] mouth like all right thank you here you go I love you bro yeah that thing where you can't wait you know what I mean but it's like the people in New York yo you go to like underground hip-hop show where you go to some [ __ ] they'll sit through an opener that they hate this is something I I not that I love booing or something like that it's just it's funny to see people be like being nice trying to be nice Tech isn't that okay is it okay to be nice no I come from I come from an era where they were like get him off the stage oh it still exists certain certain shows are like that there's a difference there's some people's fans that will not tolerate it like I saw someone waiting too long for someone to be on stage a random fan jump he was waiting for wuang he jumped on the stage he was like get wuang on here and the the the [ __ ] opener was like oh hold on man he goes no man you suck dick money and I was like God damn yo all that just cuz trying to entertain y'all why these [ __ ] smoking weed in the back

trying to get this set together what kind of [ __ ] is that but it happens all the time y know but in England I just feel like they just have like a more ruthless approach to it like I've seen people get booed the [ __ ] off there they really are like enthusiastic about it you know I had had a great time it's just weird cuz when I I walk around there and I meet people they have no idea what I do if they don't know what I do and they're like I walked into a cab for example and this old man was like what will you do for a living sir you know you strike me as a type of man to be an Entertainer perhaps a a singer or a rapper and I was just like I looked at him and I wanted to be like you racist [ __ ] like what makes you think that I'm but then I I thought about it for a second I was like no you know actually I just teach you know middle-age medieval history and the history of antiquity and the guy's like really and you know why you lying to that dude no no no cuz cuz I cuz I I've studied I studied with it for years so I mean I had I had a passion for learning about the past like a few years ago where I really really got into it so technically at some of the prison programs that I've done I've taught um the history of antiquity like I I I tell kids like all right the way that you or or anybody in this room will believe in Christianity Judaism or Islam people used to believe in these creation mythologies of surian and Mesopotamian times to to give people an idea and an impression of a world that exists Beyond where belief is not put into a concrete form this could be someone's belief but your belief doesn't necessarily signify that that's exactly what the world is it's just what you believe the world is you know similar to the way people will flip a penny in the air and they think oh man it's just 50/50 and then take the same Penny and flick it across the ground and it's not 50/50 it's 8020 that it's going to be Tails because the face of Lincoln is a fraction of a gram heavier than the actual Monument on the back or it was on the old copper pennies so it would fall the similar the way if you're holding a TV and spinning in a circle you're going to fall forward not backward so that's what a lot of them are getting they think they're getting the 50/50 shot from the world but you're not you're getting spun across a table

from the moment you come out the womb you know you're going to be in jail here and then they're going to tell you oh we want to reintroduce you Society how you going to be reintroduced to a society you were never part of in the first place but back to the point I this guy this guy's like you know oh you do I was like going teach middle- age history he's like antiquity I was like sir you know what Antiquity is you know Rome Babylon Greece Egypt he's like oh yeah yeah yeah so I feel like he's tested me and this guy's like and middle age English History you say I'm like yeah you know I was like um he's like we abouts there I was like you know oh Essex Wessex Sussex Kent East Anglia meria North Umbria which was divided in half along with Strath Clyde when the Scottish King decided to pledge FIY to the British king and they they Dal Radia and the rest yo so the dude's like what do you get into that said what made you interested in that and I just looked and leaned over to him and I was like you know to be honest I was just really tired of [ __ ] mistaking me for some kind of singer or actor every time I stepped in some place so I wanted to get some new [ __ ] just to tell people and he seem to be totally cool with it they got a great sense of humor out there I love it I'm a big fan of England I go there uh like I try to go there once every year or so do standup that's a very unique crowd very unique crowd over there very smart very well read real cool people you know they Heckle like politely like that's what I mean you see what I mean they heck they Heckle polite it's not like they want to be a dick but it's just like I'll give you the alleyoop if you can throw it back in my face I I'll take it I'll be cool with it like that you know what I mean like I like a good Heckle but it's like it's hard to say what's a good Heckle to somebody cuz the people that suck at it are always going to suck at it and they I'm going to get a good one this time no you're not you're going to ruin the show some people can be smart and they know what to say at the right time and it's funny and other people they just ruin the whole thing but some people plant hecklers don't they no well not that I know of not that I know they do to work off of uh I have never known a single comedian to ever plant someone

in the audience and work off of them if they have if I've heard stories of doing it it's all been hear say I've never never heard of one person that plants a guy I think it would be so obvious I mean people have had people in the audience as a part of a gag like they they they've set things up like as a like Brian Holtzman used to always have people in the back of the whole audience ask him about his gay son it was like a gag it was a bit that he would do and we would always do tell us about your gay son and he would go sir there's no need to talk about that right now but since it's been brought up and they would tell this story about his casay it's a fake you know just a bit but we that would almost be like that's like the closest plant in the audience I've ever heard of have you ever heard anybody planting hecklers yeah who um see who was that I'll think about it I know there's something I've heard of it before I've never heard I don't know I definitely not a single one of my friends has ever done it but a good Heckler will or or any good bad someone that heckles you in the right way actually gives you fuel as a comedian don't they they it makes you able to bounce off of stuff depends on when they do it cuz they could do it in the middle of a bit ruin they could do it I mean I've had yell something stupid out with totally the wrong timing and people pile on them and smack them in the head I've seen violence break out because of heckers people got tired of someone who keeps yelling [ __ ] out I mean people throwing drinks at each other throwing I've seen people throw chairs at each other because of hecklers for the most part hecklers are [ __ ] they're just annoying [ __ ] that need attention and don't deserve it I liked I what was I think I don't know if we played it the first time I was here the Bill Hicks uh response to the hecklers that was woman oh my god I've got C I'm a [ __ ] he goes C I got he goes I can I don't have a [ __ ] I can yell at performers dude I run into people like that and God bless their hearts 99% of the people at the shows that I do are total Soldier supporters and then there's like the 1% that they're just there to just [ __ ] around and play these stupid little games and it's like they'll put I'm like yo please no flash

and they're like well why not and I'm just like listen you take one flash photo photo a day that doesn't bother you but if I get 800 of these [ __ ] things every day I'm going to go blind tomorrow and they're like well can you just take mine then instead I was like no you're not understanding me you're going to turn the flash off or you're going to leave oh well I'm like okay you're drunk It's the countdown to when my first name becomes [ __ ] you get this [ __ ] out of here leave and the security is not here to protect me they're here to protect you from me because when I flip out I'm going to snap your NE like a bread stick for [ __ ] get next this is all violent talk and I'm not really comfortable with it especially in the confines of recounting a story that poor drunk fan you know trying to have a good time Joe you never beat up a fan that got too crazy you never beat up a fan that got too crazy [ __ ] lying I've never beat up a fan what about another comedian no I never beat up a comedian never it doesn't have to go to that it's silly oh okay that's [ __ ] he's [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of here get the [ __ ] out of here never beat up a Canadian I never beat up a fan and I wouldn't do it this is stupid I mean if I'm fighting someone's defend myself no the point I'm trying to make is 99% of the people that come to the shows total down are totally cool damn if it's that little would be more that would be like if you had a 300 person show there'd be three [ __ ] every 300 person show be three people screaming [ __ ] out it's more than 99 you got what you got to understand usually those people get kicked out in the middle of it cuz honestly hip-hop shows they have a lot of ejections MH well a lot of times on my shows people get kicked out before I get on stage like they'll hickle they'll be heckling the guys on before me and the the the security at the venue we usually get rid of them before I get up there do you bring your own openers to this stuff yeah always always if you don't you get stuck with shitty comedians man you get stuck with dudes who will step on your material too that's another thing that like Bad Comics will do even if they're not stealing like say if you got a bit about Mike Tyson they'll come up with a new bit about Mike Tyson and just do it

right before you so that the the subject is already stale right time you it's called stepping on your material we call it we call it set tripping oh okay like you trip on someone's set like you take a piece of what they what they did on their set like maybe it won't be exactly the same thing but you'll do the same call and response to the audience again and again or you'll have a verse or a song about the same kind of thing or you'll give an introduction or a speech about a song that has the same kind of connotation that somebody else will and then that person then the headliner gets on and we're almost like oh well we heard this already with the openers that was uh that was one of mania's Tricks Mania used to do that right before he would bring guys up he would do their best bits like he did this this dude Johnny Sanchez man was a funny dude he had this great bit about um Iranians uh and being mad at him for parking in their parking spot and yelling at him and broken English he had this funny bit and Mania they were taping a TV show Mania was hosting it he just jacked his bit and did it right before him so this this big closing bit and the dude's doing it right before he goes up there and he's just like he's got no weapons he's going up there unarmed he's been not only that he's going up there the with the emotional burden that this [ __ ] had just stole a bit right before he goes on stage and it was uh that was what he would do like you would see him at The Comedy Store he would do one of Paul money's bits and then Mooney would go on later on in the night and do the same bit instead of you know Mexicans he'd be talking about black people it would be the same bit like we already heard this star he take the the the top and take it and then put the other thing in there yeah yeah that's uh that's a very extreme form of uh stepping on your material but it happens all the time when guys I talk to guys this day that are on the road and they'll be the headliner and the middle act always wants to be the headliner they want to one day be the headliner they want to blow the headliner off the stage they love tell people love saying oh this guy couldn't follow me yeah I middled for him in West Virginia and he couldn't follow me people love that so they'll

they'll [ __ ] with you like you have to bring your own guys you want to bring you don't want that sort of competitive sense that that backstabby [ __ ] that's no fun so it's so then you what you're really arranging is a package deal for you and the other people that I'm also arranging that the people who go on before me are really funny like no that that goes without saying that's the most important part to me because the worst thing you want to do is go on after someone eats it when you go on after someone bombing on stage it sucks man the crowd is in a bad mood tell me about it dude tell me about it they don't want to [ __ ] they don't want to believe that they paid money to see this [ __ ] talk and you got to you're not coming in and also that person is associated with you like as if oh you brought this person Jo suck you even know yeah they think you suck they think and a lot of comics do that though man they stack the deck they'll bring really shitty opening acts to make them look like a hero they come in and rescue it a lot of dudes do that they bring terrible terrible opening acts it's really really on purpose people how about people who pay to open up well I know no I've never heard of that but I know Tony H it's got to be opening up for a dude and then the dude stopped using him and started using a guy who was way worse than him and the only thing that made any sense was that he just thought Tony was too strong there there's guys that do that man there's there's a few guys that do that kind of [ __ ] they want to they want to make sure they're the star and that the guy before him doesn't make it hard for him right the audience thing I was thinking of by the way was uh I think uh Andy Kaufman used to do that oh did he that makes sense Andy Coffman was more of a performance artist yeah I never thought he was a a funny standup cuz he really wasn't he was a really funny guy he was a great actor he was a fascinating character study you know he did a lot of weird [ __ ] like he would he would work at Jerry's Deli when he was on Taxi he was on Taxi he was on a hit sitcom and he would work as a real bus boy at Jerry's Deli so he would go to Jerry's Deli and like wait tables and like clean tables that's probably where he got a lot of material listening to [ __ ] people that are rambling at some

deli table in some [ __ ] box place where he's working I think it was more of a performance art piece like he wanted people to freak out the fact that this guy who's on the biggest hit television show on in America taxi sitting there working he was working washing tables I mean it was it was a he was like he would read books on stage like he would go on stage and play uh Mighty Mouse here I come to save the day over and over and over again and just stand there go here I come to save the day and he would do it for like a half hour like he was it was like performance art more even than it was that does sound like some Avant guard [ __ ] I swear if I saw that if I paid [ __ ] $25 with my shrooms God knows what the [ __ ] he was on yeah he was a he did a lot of Transcendental Meditation I know that he was a big TM guy he might I think he might actually been clean and sober and just into really like heavy meditation but he did a lot of crazy [ __ ] like the thing he did where he was wrestling women Jer LA right well he would he would do pro wrestling and get really slapped down by these guys and get beat up by these guys he would challenge them and then he would wrestle women he would like like say that he was the intergender uh Champion exclusively I'll fight any woman in here and they would all go crazy thinking he was serious it was all performance art right but it was you know in that context it's undeniably genius I mean what he did was incredible stuff because he was just he he always lost by the way and he just made everybody angry I mean it was a performance look if he wanted to he scrawny as [ __ ] all that good but if he really wanted to he kick that chick's ass let's come on she's a small woman he's letting her beat him according to the rules of wrestling will give him seconds to get back to the of the Ring well I'm not really that's Bob zudo who's his friend who's a referee it's it's it's it's a joke it in my concerts I've learned a lot about it by just doing it but I wanted to recapture the old days of the carnivals where in the before the main wrestlers used to from town to town in carnivals and offer $500 to any man that could last in the ring with them for 3 minutes so I figured if I could offer a prize make it like a

contest he gets to like grab women and like yeah he's trying to pin her now he's actually pinning her for real but I couldn't very well challenge men in the audience because I'd get beaten right away are bigger than me and stronger than me oh so I figured if I challenge women there are enough women who are almost as big or as big as me who they would have a good chance to beat me I I love that he said that with a straight face I love Joe what was his alter eagle's name Tony uh was it clap uh Tony Clifton Clifton Tony Clifton yeah which was actually never mind yeah that was his uh but Bob zamona still does Tony Clifton right still puts on like an outfit and pretends he's Tony Clifton and says Tony Clifton's still alive yeah there's like a whole cult cult that of people that believe that he's still alive right yeah people believe copin well they believe everybody's alive Tupac's still alive Kennedy's still alive I've heard Elvis is still alive I mean nobody Bruce Lee I've never heard that one the hood didn't you get in an argument with Tupac when he was alive back in the dis uh we were teenagers I wouldn't necessarily call it an argument argument you know and so that's a no Brian luckily and uh you know luckily we talked about it before he passed so everything is all good that's nice yeah that's that must be an interesting thing though to know a dude like that man you know right for sure that's an interesting thing right think about it you know that dude and then he vanished one of the greatest rappers ever right and then gone and then still no one knows who killed him that's what's really crazy about it one of the most crazy things ever yeah the the whole thing the whole thing the biggy thing like it's like how youst how could you not how could it not be solved I me yeah yeah how could it not be solved right how could it not be solved how is it possible how is it humanly possible that in 2014 that hasn't been resolved and then you ever read that Rolling Stone piece on the whole thing find out the rampart the guys were all corrupt oh it's [ __ ] crazy man it's it's interesting too that that era of of rap like those were the two prominent personalities and both of

them died in shootouts you know what a [ __ ] up situation yeah does he know about yeah we just talking about that about that yeah no that's crazy man to think that you know in the middle of the strip in Vegas yeah yeah especially in Vegas with all with all the surveillance cameras everything is crazy yeah it's insane it's insane to think that no one caught anybody no one caught anybody I had heard read something about the guy uh I can't recall the guy's name the guy who last year uh was involved with the whole he ended up being found in bare mountain and he burned him out the former police officer some kind of way there was intermingling with Rampart and that and that whole situation he's much more recent he was a police officer after that but there's without a doubt if there was the the kind of level of corruption that Rampart had there has to be something left over I mean the idea that they cleaned it off [ __ ] and span you nice and pretty clean and Polished it up and no no whatsoever they're having problems now with the sheriff department are they what in what way lebaka the same thing that they have like a inner culture within the sheriff and they favored certain police officers and certain people especially with the whole since the sheriff controls the jail systems oh in California so a lot of them are getting you know with corruption and bribery and it happens man ultimate power corrupts just nothing there's no way around it just people and basically Sheriff Lee Baka knew about and just turn turn chick on it you know what I mean he did a Joe Paterno basically I mean you know and the thing is is they they caught like a core of them and they have like what happened is internal affairs hired an inmate and he's an informant so the inmate was getting cell phones drugs oh Jesus so they actually got an inmate to be yeah and he's the one that basically gave up the sheriff and they kept finding out so they built a whole case you know a few years about it and what they did is the sheriff moved the inmate and they couldn't locate him his attorney or his Handler couldn't locate him inside the jail system oh so they you know it finally the pressure came to sheriff lebaka and he just basically

turned a cheek and it took him for a while like they start harassing him like it got really really serious because his his Handler couldn't find him like what do you mean you can't find him inside the jail system wow that's interesting man yeah I think that's going to be real hard to do their their whole culture the culture of law enforcement is having to adapt yeah it's a whole different they have to adapt because people find out about [ __ ] way quicker to day it's so easy to spread the news social media having a camera people like I I can't imagine all the abuses [ __ ] got away with before this camera came well the funny thing about is the actual phone that they snuck in and gave to him and he was selling to inmates was where a lot of that evidence was coming from because the phone he's taking pictures of everything why it's wow so it's already inside he's inside you know yeah well you know it's going to be harder and harder for those [ __ ] to do [ __ ] like that but if there's anywhere they're going to be able to pull it off it is in prison where they can control people so but everything's for sale in there you know was when when when Joe was locked um they he was telling me crazy story that at that federal prison where he was at they said that there was a scandal where like the the guards had the female cosos had been selling [ __ ] to the inmates that's so common it was like foror said the same thousand of pound when we had Victor ke he was the guy who got busted in the ball Scandal remember that with Barry Bonds and selling those guys steroids he was in prison and they were they were all banging this the the female guards the female guards ret return tricks wow that's crazy I love it that's American Ingenuity you're in the middle of nowhere you know look what do those guys need [ __ ] what does she have to sell [ __ ] Let's Make a Deal Let's Make a Deal her husband is somewhere like you were what yeah her husband he probably [ __ ] sell an ass both of them together they work in the same institution hey easy Jesus Christ what is that bad am I lying there's no gay people that would in jail that want a good [ __ ] from a nice security guard oh God I'm going to have to Frisk you they probably had like a little game that they would play keep real go you

going to it real goes way wrong don't make me suck it I'm I'm a officer of the law you suck it God guy a fat envelope that he had been hiding up his ass is that a female security guard it's a female security guard that you have to [ __ ] but you know what you would take it man if you were locked up for a long time that that's better than nothing that's sure yeah so girls who would never be able to sell [ __ ] on the outside on the inside that's a valuable commodity they're miss American Tech checked out too many images in his head for this one podcast you can tell dud flabbergasted shock no no it's just funny because every time I turn around you got to get Brian to stop putting [ __ ] up there like Brian stop that's part of the [ __ ] [ __ ] part of the show is it's the conflict don't you understand Society craves conflict can't just have a smooth running show you have to have something it's interior drama you come and do the openers for Joe sometimes uh I used to a lot now I have it done once in a while all right so he does comedy on his own you bring so you bring your own openers your little homies too yeah okay do you do you set them up like any hecklers and [ __ ] like that that [ __ ] would be so obvious man I'm tell no it wouldn't dude listen it wouldn't be a smart thing to do first of all because it would be fake and then the the fake Vibe would get out there somehow or another it would sneak through the [ __ ] if it's part of show it's not if you're not doing it it depends on what you're doing it depends on what you're doing I mean you can set up something in the audience where you have like a fake fight with somebody and the whole thing is like a grand show yeah you could do it but the way I feel about standup when I if I went to see Joey Diaz okay who my favorite comedian and and if Joey Diaz had someone go on in the audience and fake Heckle him and he had all these canned lines and he threw at that and I thought it was brilliant but but then I found out that it was fake I would be I would feel sick I'd feel grossed out if I ever did that I would feel sick if I ever like tricked a bunch of people to think that I came up with a smooth line when when someone heckles me and I come up with something on the Fly and it Nails them and then they look really stupid that's like an

art there's an art to finding the right thing to say at the right time we were in Ohio we had this [ __ ] dude took his shirt off and he was standing in the crowd with his shirt off I mean it was you couldn't you you couldn't plant a better guy I think I saw that there's a video the dude was crazy and Brian and I saw him hours later like after the show I mean I hugged the guy and everything I mean he wasn't a violent guy but someone decided to like take advantage of the fact that he was this loud guy and they beat the [ __ ] at him we found him when we were getting to our car like 2:00 in the morning we were leaving Steak and Shake right we hit eight and we we got to our car and this dude was [ __ ] up man his eyes bloody blood cing all over his [ __ ] all over his clothes he was somebody just beat the [ __ ] out of him man for what for heckley yeah well probably this is the guy look guy's got no shirt on in the audience Voodoo sir we're all here to have a good time doing voodo with tell you this because I love you I love you too I love you too but I'm G to tell you this you are that guy is he that guy that's that is that guy personified he's got no shirt on [ __ ] dud I wish we got the video him [ __ ] up later in the night we should like a bloody P because it would have been so perfect the perfect way to end that video somebody tuned him up it was a free shot because he was so drunk they could take advantage of it you guys got to leave we got to wrap this thing up anyway we running five 10 minutes I wanted to ask you one thing uh before we go we only have five minutes left but um you you're you specialized like in ancient history and you you you're really a big fan of like uh ancient cultures have you paid attention to any of this gockley tappy [ __ ] they're finding in Turkey what the the ark no no no no no no no no no gockley Tey is a new structure that they found there was like a cattle herder or something like that found this Stone and uncovered it with like kicked some dirt around on it and then started digging around it and they realized it's massive called in some people they found out that the whole area had been filled with dirt on purpose at the very earliest 12,000

years ago right so it's at least 12,000 years old and that's when it was covered that's when it was filled in and it's this huge gigantic structure all these look look there's some images of what they've discovered so far why are our [ __ ] images loading so slow what is it 1990 is this a [ __ ] geoc City's website there's um gigantic 19t tall stone columns all they have these reliefs 3D reliefs of these animals that are drawn on it but this whole thing throws the origins or the the the dates of civilization into a kind of a chaotic situation because it's so old it's at a time where they thought people were just basically Hunter and gatherers and these Hunter and gatherers created these enormous stone structures this really complex thing like all his carvings on it and these are 3D reliefs meaning that they took the stone away they cut it away to make this image they didn't carve it into the stone which would the easy way to do it they carved the stone out and left the three-dimensional image of these you know animals and they've only uncovered 5% of it so far and it's [ __ ] enormous enormous Stone structure that was covered up so they know for fact that and this is in central turkey it's in it's an area called gockley gockley tee I don't know um I don't I know that the the what part of turkey there was there was a civilization called the Hittites that lived in central turkey and they had this site houia and what I think is interesting about that is that it was totally in it miles and miles away from water in other words most of these civilizations take place near some sort of river near some sort of stream but the ironic thing about this civilization is it existed for thousands of years in turkey and yet there was no water that was physically near it it was like 50 mil away so you're going to tell me every single day someone rode 50 miles to get water and they were saying what was going on was probably that there was an internal spring that allowed for there to be water inside a city for it to flourish to the level it did could be they also had irrigation back then too well that is one one suggestion but they didn't have an aqueduct the similar to the way people look at them in in Roman times I guess they may have diverted

water through a stream or or by damning a river but whatever the case may be is I think people are going to start finding more and more of these things as time progresses and I think what we're talking about also is that uh uh uh not just on land but also on sea you know what I mean in in when you go underwater people found recently that there were uh ancient Egyptian civilizations or people in the med Mediterranean that had existed for like 3 4,000 years that have been buried because in reality there were probably plenty of places that were above sea level you know 10,000 years ago oh no question about it the the the the tide or rather the oceans levels have risen and fallen for No Doubt no doubt no question you know but besides rap I started writing a book recently and one of them I'm specific going to be able to deal with this specific fact and the the history of humankind that is severely underwritten I mean this you're writing a history book no it's not a history book it's more like a book of philos it's more like a book of philosophies you know what I mean and it's a little humorous you know what I mean because I I I I want to show people the sort of Perpetual hypocrisy that we're willing to live in that people have always lived in always I mean that but not only that we live in but that we're willing to live in you know it's it reminds me of a quote from Mark Twain where he's like you know the difference between writing fiction and writing reality is that you have to make reality seem believable you know because it's so Preposterous that you have to include some sort of element that brings it home similar to the way that a comedian will criticize society and then talk about how [ __ ] up it is and at the end of it say hey well guess what I'm just as [ __ ] you know how I know it's this [ __ ] bad because I'm part of this [ __ ] up Society and that's the ironic part of the joke that you know what I mean no no no Coke is so bad and uh I'm going to go get a Coke now so [ __ ] all the rest of you because that's just how it is I I think that when you look at at civilizations and human development you find just a series of of of pure savagery and then you find ennoblement in strange and and almost irreconcilable places within that Society so when I I I

look at them over the course of of human evolution I really wanted to address that and the fact that you know yes we're a civilization of talking monkeys that have achieved some sort of growth over the years whether it's through grooming because we place a a gigantic uh uh uh we place a gigantic amount of value on how we're groomed we place a gigantic amount of value on our superstitions in other words if I believe something and you don't believe the same thing I'm threatened by your belief system not you or me specifically but in terms of how we communicate and how how we've communicated over the years now has that always been a positive thing or has it always been a negative thing well when we were dividing ourselves among different actual races like homoerectus or homohabilis then maybe it was a positive thing to not include these people in our society because are these animals or hominids in our society because it would have created a much different strand of humanity dude you need to podcast your own shit's different run out of time man The Immortal Technique podcast launching next month holy [ __ ] just start with an iPhone start talking into it when you're at the airport record that [ __ ] I got the book coming out the Middle Passage shout to the whole Rebel arms yeah follow him Immortal tech on Twitter and guys what are your Twitter Twitter handles uh Bobby bouted at Twitter spell hold on spell that what is Bobby B BB y Bout It b u t t twitter.com boom uh Cho XL Twitter and Chino XL Instagram thank you very much also lift the state apparel.com thanks to Legal zoom.com use the code word Rogan at checkout save yourself some cash thanks also to 1 800 Flowers that's 1 800 Flowers uh thank you to uh on it use the code word Rogan and save 10% off any and all supplements all right we will see you tomorrow with uh artist Molly Krab apple and then we have on Wednesday War Machine and on Thursday Joey Coco Diaz much love see you [ __ ] soon let's do it throw a Heckler in the n [Applause]